Posted on 07/27/2009 11:12:35 AM PDT by Danae
Ok here is a theory.
To preface what follows, I was born in Hawaii in 1969. I have both my long form BC and my COLB from that state.
My COLB was printed for me at my mothers request in a letter that was received (and confirmed by computer records by the Vital Stats office in the Hawaiian Dept of Health in Honolulu) and my COLB that I received should have had the date of Mar.6 2000. It states Mar. 6 2007 (!).
Stick with me through what follows.
Lets just say that in 2007 when Barry was really getting into running for President that he was facing some questions from the black community, which was indeed the case. The question in the black community was this: Is he black enough? Barry is 50% white, 44% Arab and 6% Black from the breakdown that I have repeatedly seen. So the black community isn’t sure they can support this guy because he is half white, and we have all heard the condescension that Black people have given to mulatto children. Certainly in my lifetime I can remember some rather racist black kids riding the mulatto kids I knew. Barry is most definitely Mulatto.
Ok so he has a problem with convincing the Black community to support him, and he NEEDS their support, and that of ACORN, the two go hand in hand.
So, Barry goes back to Hawaii on vacation, visits grandma. Grandma is VERY well connected in Honolulu. You don’t get to the position of VP of Hawaii’s largest bank and NOT be connected. In Hawaii connections are everything. With connections, you can do just about anything, a favor is a favor, and Grandma likely had more than just a few to pull in. Thats just how the islands work. I am not going to try and explain it more than that, it would take too long. But I have connected family on Kauai to this day, so let’s just stipulate that I know what I am talking about.
Back to the story. Barry needs to solidly convince a lot of Black people that he has the creds to run from the Black community, to counter his detractors on the whole Black enough issue.
A COLB stating African would do that pretty convincingly. Grandma pulls a few strings and gets Barry a COLB that states African, and is actually a real document from the State of Hawaii because it indeed came from there, but under some false circumstances. Mainly that his race was African, when clearly it wasn’t, he had a White Mother. If anything, original COLB would have said Negro or Black. That might not be enough to counter the white half of his genetic make up in the Black Community, but stating “AFRICAN” WOULD. But I don’t think hid long form says Negro or Black, I think it classifies him as Caucasian.
So it is a “legit” document that was printed under false circumstances. I am theorizing that it was printed by someone in the Vital Statistics Office, but as my OWN COLB shows, by the messed up date, that anyone who knew how to do it could have printed one up with the information of choice, then put the seal on it folded it, and sent it on its way. The Date stamp on the Fact Check Document has the date stamp above Onaka’s name, which could only have been printed in the snail mail order room, like mine is. It is ALSO a separate room. There are three printing Machines in that office which could have been used, the front desk, which has a date stamper to the Side of Onaka’s stamp (also printed by the machines at the same time as the rest of the Document is printed), and the internet order area, which also has the stamp to the side, and the oldest machine, which has the date ABOVE Onaka’s stamp. Now I know this because while I was confirming the order date of my own COLB I did a little digging, and the clerk was very informative and helpful. Obama got a COLB that was printed in the Mail Order’s separate room. If it was ordered at the front desk, then it would have been printed there, not in the snail mail room, unless someone was going to change some of the info on it and wanted to conceal that...
Now is the date on the back of the fact check document on or about the same as one of his vacations to the Islands? I was told that it can take up to a month to process orders, but I think he likely got it handed to him on or about the same time he or Grandma ordered it. In reality that doesn’t matter, Grandma could have pulled strings at any time and had it mailed to him.
Now, because the COLB that Barry has is legit looking, all he has to do is make sure his Long Form Birth Certificate NEVER sees the light of day, and that his school records and financial aid applications never see the light of day either. Why? Because his Long form would say that he is Caucasian, and his school records/financial aid, under his Barry Soetoro name show him to be a foreigner from Indonesia. I could go into the whole Immigration status thing, which I do think has some validity to it, and certainly has not been looked at by a Court AS OF YET, so I will leave that alone for now, it could well be he is a citizen, but because of dual citizenship issues, he is not a Natural Born citizen.
But I digress.
OK so he now has his Black enough Street creds, and a “legit” COLB, he should be in the clear right? Only if you assume that the COLB he has was gotten in 2007 was 100% legit, and I have proof that a COLB can have incorrect information in it - Because MINE DOES.
Some time ago, I remember reading that Barry’s lawyer that had seen the document said that he was indeed born in Hawaii, but that his records contained information that would be “embarrassing”. Is Caucasian embarrassing enough? Is lying to the Black Community enough? Is gaining their support with a lie embarrassing enough? Do you think it possible that once this information became public, with the release of a Long Form BC stating he was Caucasian, that the black community would become apathetic to him in part or in whole?
Add to this, Barry describes his grandmother as the rock of his family, as well as describing her as “afraid of Black men”, do you think that she, with her connections, her strength of charachter, and a wayward 17 year old daughter having shown some poor decision making in the recent past from Grandma’s perspective, could have required that her daughter state the race of her child as accurately being predominately white, which he is? I do indeed think so.
Folks, I think that Barry may well have been born in Hawaii, solid evidence of some other place being missing, that he was registered with the office of Vital Statistics as being Caucasian. He states in his book that he HAD all his birth records at one time, why would he need a new COLB in 2007 if that’s the case? Because he needed one that would gain him the support of the Black Community, and indeed they got a real live “African” even better!!
So if this theory is true, do you think that come 2011 that the black community is going to be as fired up about their lying Mulatto pretending to “African” status? Ummm hummmm.
Do you think they would have supported him as strongly as they did in 2008 as a mostly white guy?? As the messiah? As the ONE? I don’t think so. I could be wrong on that... But I don’t think so. Perceptions matter sometimes, and there is a world of difference in perceiving Barry as African and White. All the difference in the world to the Black Community, enough to win the Presidency.
Remember, he only won by a few percentage points. His electoral numbers came from fewer total states that had higher numbers of Blacks in the population.
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Tear the theory apart please!
Birth announcements are totally irrelevant. I could call a paper in Missouri and give them a birth announcement that was totally fake, pay the fee and they would print it. It is not as if that is some sort of legal document. I am sure that if there was any sort of scandal in Grandma’s eyes she would want to give as much legitimacy as she could at the time. Certainly Birth announcements were common then. I did not do an announcement in any papers when either of my children were born. It is not an automatic or mandatory thing. Its the choice of the person essentially buying the space to print it.
Well all I know is that Obama and his Administration hate Sick Children.
I offered a rather generous charitable contribution to the Kapiolani Medical Center Childrens ward that would be made in the name of the Doctor that brought Obama into this world (This honor should be made to the one that brought us the one at the Hospital that he supposedly was birthed).
In any event the WH declined to provide the doctors name therefore it must mean
Obama hates sick children
I mean, he could be an illegitimate child from an affair Stanley had with some woman of color.
Here’s his ancestory. See if you can spot any “Arabic” names.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_Barack_Obama#Hussein_Onyango_Obama
His family are members of the Luo ethnic group.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luo_(Kenya_and_Tanzania)
“Well, your theory would explain why he took on the Gates issue on the health care presser. He had to prove his “creds” sooner rather than later. After the Gatesgates no one can deny that he had a knee-jerk reaction based only on race.”
I had not considered that. He got a heads up that he might get that question, so he was in some way prepped. But apparently he did not take into account how his stance would look to the rest of America. His response was specifically targeted at the Black Community and it’s perceptions of the situation.
One has to take into account that the leaders of the Black Community are racists, they drop the race card every time they can, regardless of the facts of a given issue. They use that “victim” status, which is a form of racism when ever it suits their needs, and they can “get” something out of it.
In the case of Gates, the Black Community including Gates was way far on the wrong side. Gates could have done the reasonable thing, and handed the officer his license and then gotten a sincere, “I am sorry to have bothered you, is there anything that I or the department can do for you. No? Alright then sir, you have a good evening” But Gates DIDN’T do that, he too went with the knee jerk response of “THATS RACIST” which is what racists do every time they can.
You make a good point!
the correct question should be, would whites have voted for obama had they known he was white ?
It’s a moot point really. The only issue facing Obama was the “Black enough” Issue, and that was clearly demonstrated bu the Chicago community during the race he lost. It was a big issue in that race. He apparently got the point, and could well have decided to circumvent the issue this time.
Which makes me think, perhaps the man contrived the issue so that it would become necessary to show his COLB conspicuously enough to insert the “African” thing into the minds of those he needed to convince, and get it out there into the mainstream media... Who the heck knows.
Getting “found out” as having a Long Form saying Caucasian would indeed be really embarrassing under just about any scenario that one could speculate on. The lawyer who made the claim that the information contained in the long form was embarrassing may well have been referring to that. It might not disqualify him from the position of POTUS, but it sure would make him look very bad in the Black Community.
Remember some beleive if a lie is repeated often enough some will consider it as fact sooner than later.
I really wonder what the Blacks are going to do to Obama once they realize he has lied to them about his race? That a white man with purple lips has fooled them, bigtime!?
Interesting theory -- except this: Are you referring to the photos in the link below? They show his sister hugging him after the scattering of the ashes, but not "leaping into his arms with joy"; and Michelle is nowhere in evidence.
The emotional moment Barack Obama scattered his grandmother's ashes
I did not mean to imply that she was some big mucky muck. Only that the position she held would have been one where she could easily have had the connections (think 6 degrees of separation on a scale of really only one or two degrees) to accomplish the goal.
I know that if I wanted to get something “done” in Hawaii, that was important enough to bend a few laws, I know exactly who to contact in Hawaii. Not because that person could accomplish what I wanted, but because that person would KNOW someone who could, or that knew someone who knew someone that could. Thats just how things work in Hawaii.
This is an interesting theory. It would help if you would edit your opening sentences more carefully and correct the several misspellings (”Onaka”) of Obama’s name.
WOW. That sounds like something right out of a history text.
The name alone would have brought scrutiny on his heritage. But I don’t think that is the problem. If the long form does not match the COLB completely, someone has some plainin to do.
Would you mind postin an image of your COLB? You can blacken out private information if you desire.
Also, we need to get a long form or COLB from a black Hawaiian from the early 60s, preferably ‘61 to see if “African” was even used on the forms back then.
I agree, Barry may have been listed as Mulatto or White, Father may have been listed as British.
That’s a new one.
Both of you need to post one or more reliable citations. Without some kind of evidence, neither of you can state unequivocably, nor even with a margin of error; since commonsense logic could support either possibility.
Maybe the BC said his father was Arab. Would that be considered “race” in Hawaii in the early 1960?
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