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Obama's Dr. Mengele Admits Health Care "Reform" Will Kill Old People Sooner
Flopping Aces ^ | 07-25-09 | Mike's America

Posted on 07/25/2009 5:12:31 PM PDT by Starman417

White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel's brother, a physician, appointed to Obama health care job admits killing old people is the only way to cut costs!

DEADLY DOCTORS O ADVISERS WANT TO RATION CARE By BETSY MCCAUGHEY New York Post July 24, 2009

Emanuel: Believes in withholding care from elderly for greater good. THE health bills coming out of Congress would put the decisions about your care in the hands of presidential appointees. They'd decide what plans cover, how much leeway your doctor will have and what seniors get under Medicare.

Yet at least two of President Obama's top health advisers should never be trusted with that power.

Start with Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, the brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. He has already been appointed to two key positions: health-policy adviser at the Office of Management and Budget and a member of Federal Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research.

Emanuel bluntly admits that the cuts will not be pain-free. "Vague promises of savings from cutting waste, enhancing prevention and wellness, installing electronic medical records and improving quality are merely 'lipstick' cost control, more for show and public relations than for true change," he wrote last year (Health Affairs Feb. 27, 2008).

Savings, he writes, will require changing how doctors think about their patients: Doctors take the Hippocratic Oath too seriously, "as an imperative to do everything for the patient regardless of the cost or effects on others" (Journal of the American Medical Association, June 18, 2008). Yes, that's what patients want their doctors to do. But Emanuel wants doctors to look beyond the needs of their patients and consider social justice, such as whether the money could be better spent on somebody else.

Many doctors are horrified by this notion; they'll tell you that a doctor's job is to achieve social justice one patient at a time. Emanuel, however, believes that "communitarianism" should guide decisions on who gets care. He says medical care should be reserved for the non-disabled, not given to those "who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens . . . An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia" (Hastings Center Report, Nov.-Dec. '96). Translation: Don't give much care to a grandmother with Parkinson's or a child with cerebral palsy.

He explicitly defends discrimination against older patients: "Unlike allocation by sex or race, allocation by age is not invidious discrimination; every person lives through different life stages rather than being a single age. Even if 25-year-olds receive priority over 65-year-olds, everyone who is 65 years now was previously 25 years" (Lancet, Jan. 31).

"Communitarianism?" Sounds like ?

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To: Jeff Head
I wonder where in that chart the racial type affirmative action quotas reside ???

throw white granny under the bus...

41 posted on 07/25/2009 6:57:00 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Luke 22:36...Trust in the Lord...=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: Starman417; All

Read the Zeke Emanuel ‘Mengele’ principles for yourself:

Treating people equally

1. Lottery

Hard to corrupt; little information about recipients needed, Ignores other relevant principles

Military draft; schools; vaccination

Include

2. First-come, first-served

Protects existing doctor-patient relationships; little information about recipients needed, Favours wealthy, powerful, and well-connected; ignores other relevant principles

ICU beds; part of organ allocation

Exclude

Favouring the worst-off : prioritarianism

3. Sickest first

Aids those who are suffering right now; appeals to “rule of rescue”; makes sense in temporary scarcity; proxy for being worst off overall, Surreptitious use of prognosis; ignores needs of those who will become sick in future; might falsely assume temporary scarcity; leads to people receiving interventions only after prognosis deteriorates; ignores other relevant principles

Emergency rooms; part of organ allocation

Exclude

4. Youngest first

Benefits those who have had least life; prudent planners have an interest in living to old age

Undesirable priority to infants over adolescents and young adults; ignores other relevant principles, New NVAC/ACIP pandemic flu vaccine proposal

Include

Maximising total benefits: utilitarianism

5. Number of lives saved

Saves more lives, benefiting the greatest number; avoids need for comparative judgments about quality or other aspects of lives Ignores other relevant principles

Past ACIP/NVAC pandemic flu vaccine policy; bioterrorism response policy; disaster triage

Include

6. Prognosis or life-years saved

Maximises life-years produced Ignores other relevant principles, particularly distributive Principles

Penicillin allocation; traditional military triage (prognosis) and disaster triage (life-years saved)

Include

Promoting and rewarding social usefulness

7. Instrumental value

Helps promote other important values; future oriented, Vulnerable to abuse through choice of prioritized occupations or activities; can direct health resources away from health needs

Past and current NVAC/ACIP, pandemic fl u vaccine policy

Include — but only in some public health emergencies

8. Reciprocity

Rewards those who implemented important values; past oriented, Vulnerable to abuse; can direct health resources away from health needs; intrusive assessment process

Some organ donation policies

Include — only irreplaceable people who have suffered serious losses

By contrast, the complete lives system combines four morally relevant principles: youngest-fi rst, prognosis, lottery, and saving the most lives. In pandemic situations, it also allocates scarce interventions to people instrumental in realising these four principles. Importantly, it is not an algorithm, but a framework that expresses widely affirmed values: priority to the worst-off , maximising benefits, and treating people equally. To achieve a just allocation of scarce medical interventions, society must embrace the challenge of implementing a coherent multiprinciple framework rather than relying on simple principles or retreating to the status quo.

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42 posted on 07/25/2009 6:58:43 PM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: Paladin2
"Zer0 and the ‘RAT Party = Throw Grandma under the bus."

When Grandma won't die soon enough, the bus is no longer the mode of transport.

43 posted on 07/25/2009 6:59:31 PM PDT by RasterMaster (The only way to open a LIEberal mind is with a brick!)
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To: Starman417

These fiends are truly unbelievable.


44 posted on 07/25/2009 7:01:11 PM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: Starman417

Giant ovens will make it complete.


46 posted on 07/25/2009 7:03:49 PM PDT by M203M4 (NEW New Deal: A pot through every window! (1/2 credit to Bastiat))
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To: combat_boots

Well said. and I like your tagline.


47 posted on 07/25/2009 7:04:47 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: PubliusMM

“The 0bamunists are trying to ‘fix’ healthcare AND the pending Social Security meltdown in the same pogrom.

Too many old folks? Too many infirm folks with no hope of improvement? Simple... Control their access to treatments and care. They’ll die quicker. VOILA! Fewer people drawing SocSec.

Problem solved...”

EXACTLY! That’s where the “savings” will come from. And the age of people who are affected can be lowered depending upon whether there is a “budget crisis.” Anyone approaching age 55 or older should be calling their congressmen and Senators telling them to vote NO to Obamacare!


48 posted on 07/25/2009 7:06:57 PM PDT by Fu-fu2
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To: Starman417

Isn’t this just another way of saying “forced euthanasia”. In other words: kill off the old people, the brain-dead, the bedridden, the paralyzed, the ones with dementia and Alzheimer’s, and such and such?


49 posted on 07/25/2009 7:07:20 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Tnx. I’ve had a lot of them. My first was ‘not to be Schiavoed, Greered or Felosed.’

Over the course of the last couple of weeks, there really is no other choice now. I also worked hard on my profile, which I have now changed, too.

Great compliment from an FR 98 class member.

Boots


50 posted on 07/25/2009 7:08:04 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Fili et Spiritus Sancti.)
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To: Starman417
Senior citizens can kiss goodbye to stints, heart bypasses and even a pace maker.

Need that knee replacement? LOL.

52 posted on 07/25/2009 7:10:07 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: RasterMaster; Jim Robinson; LucyT; autumnraine; The Sons of Liberty; Shady Ray; editor-surveyor; ...
It might do many Americans some good to take a longer look at the horror of state in absolute control like the demcorat party is working to achieve: Go through a few of the pictures, and see the faces of people state control slaughtered as 'undesireable', a 'cost/benefit decision don'tchaknow' much like the democrat congress critters are 'struggling' with to figure out how to jam it down yhour throat!
53 posted on 07/25/2009 7:10:13 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: screenombre

Sounds like a good plan to me.

Yes, I was listening to some on Fox today jokingly discussing the Heatlhcare issue and I wanted to say - it is no joke, you jokels.

The people who wrote this Deathcare bill should be arrested and indicted for crimes against America!


54 posted on 07/25/2009 7:13:22 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Starman417; M. Espinola; stephenjohnbanker; FromLori; Liz; TigerLikesRooster; All
More importantly: there is a National Martial Law Exercise scheduled to begin on Monday July 27th !

Foreign troops already on U.S. soil will take part. I have mentioned this operation several times before before, right here on FR.

This is a national exercise. It will mobilize local police, national guard units, state police, FEMA, Eastern European troops wearing black uniforms, private sector, and other international 'partners.' Field locations are throughout the country, including federal headquarters facilities in the Washington, D.C. area as well as federal, regional, state, tribal, local and private sector facilities in Arkansas, Louisiana, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Texas and California. International partner nations will include Australia, Canada, Mexico and the United Kingdom. The Navajo Nation will also participate.

Did this announcement catch you by surprise ________ ? What would you do without little old ex-Texan to wake you up . . . ? Go back to sleep, right?

Details are posted on my freeper page.

Please take care . . . Have a nice day.

55 posted on 07/25/2009 7:15:23 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: Jeff Head

Right here, right now, we must throw this back at the Demoncrats..Play the sound bites...all the time, buy time everywhere we can, now. Play the sound bites of the Demoncrats yelling “Conservative Republicans want to kill old people and take food from the mouths of babies”....
Play those bites, now, as many as we can find...then read the parts of the bill which CODIFIES KILLING OLD PEOPLE AND BABIES.....
We must fight back with all that we have. We have enough.


56 posted on 07/25/2009 7:19:38 PM PDT by Shady (The Fairness Doctrine is ANYTHING but fair!!!!)
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To: USNBandit

See, per HIV/AIDS, I don’t think a complication has to be classified as such. And there are many, if you’ve ever known someone with it. It could be called something else, like terminal or serious, or <5 year life span or some such.


57 posted on 07/25/2009 7:23:23 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Fili et Spiritus Sancti.)
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To: kittymyrib

I am hoping that Kennedy, Byrd, and Specter will never get to vote on this Healthcare abomination.


58 posted on 07/25/2009 7:24:12 PM PDT by Palladin (Obama: "Irrational black guy--GOOD. White policeman--BAD! UGGA--UGGA!")
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To: Starman417
Obama’s Dr. Mengele Admits Health Care “Reform” Will Kill Old People Sooner

That simplifies things. Now every single physician in the Country is obligated to fight against obama-care. After all, their Hippocratic oath demands that they do no harm. Being for obama-care, or even not working against it, obviously flies in the face of that oath. Physicians should either actively work against obama-care, or resign.

59 posted on 07/25/2009 7:31:27 PM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar (I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom. You can keep the "change.")
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To: Starman417
There will be no shortage of this gas...

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It will now be the old duffers duty to die and go green-pushing daisies.

Next on the list....mentally challenged,disabled,chronically ill,etc.,etc.,.....

60 posted on 07/25/2009 7:32:09 PM PDT by hercuroc
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