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CBO deals new blow to health plan
The Politco ^ | 7/25/2009 | Chris Frater

Posted on 07/25/2009 12:26:01 PM PDT by tatown

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The hits just keep on coming...
1 posted on 07/25/2009 12:26:02 PM PDT by tatown
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To: tatown

I think it’s worse than even the CBO can calculate.


2 posted on 07/25/2009 12:27:21 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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"In CBO's judgment, the probability is high that no savings would be realized ... but there is also a chance that substantial savings might be realized.

WT? Does anyone here speak Washingtonese?

3 posted on 07/25/2009 12:31:57 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: b4its2late

With so much doubt about Obamacare, can’t we just say, there’s too much doubt about the cost, too much doubt as to whether it will solve the nation’s healthcare problems, etc. and Just Drive A Stake Through Its Heart????

I agree totally with Democrats and liberals that there are serious issues with healthcare and Medicare funding and all that. But let’s scrap the socialized medicine based plan and START OVER.

And let’s have a bipartisan approach. This president wanted to be a post partisan president and change the tone in Washington and all that. Yet on a major issue such as this and “global warming”, he wants to shove the liberal/radical agenda down our throats. What ever happened to changing the tone and being post partisan?


4 posted on 07/25/2009 12:32:21 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: tatown

And this analysis is only based on what is known at this time. The more the details of this bill are revealed, the higher the costs will be.


5 posted on 07/25/2009 12:33:15 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: tsmith130

I think it means he’s scared to be completely honest so he is speaking out both sides of his mouth.


6 posted on 07/25/2009 12:36:48 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Actually, this bill strips money from Medicare, breaking promises to the retired folks, in order to give hand outs to illegal aliens, crack heads and gang bangers!


7 posted on 07/25/2009 12:41:43 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: tatown
The CBO can guestimate the money. Can they tell us the effect on the quality or lack thereof that will be caused by the health reform? What effect will there be on the availability of of needed care?

Money should not be the only gauge of any reform. What good would heart surgery do me if it only cost me 200 dollars but winds up killing me?

8 posted on 07/25/2009 12:44:58 PM PDT by Know et al (Everything I know I read in the newspaper and that's the reason for my ignorance: Will Rogers)
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To: tatown

http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=5123

Socialized Health Care is Immoral!


9 posted on 07/25/2009 12:48:52 PM PDT by griswold3
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To: Kansas58

Yes, the provision where taxpayers pay $2,500 to the IRS per year if they choose to self-insure, WHEN illegal aliens can leech off the system and NOT pay $2,500 per year -- is SO fair and equitable.
10 posted on 07/25/2009 12:49:20 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: tsmith130
If care and treatment is continued at current levels, no savings can be expected.

If we start rationing health care we can save a lot of money - especially after all those baby boomers die off.

11 posted on 07/25/2009 12:50:38 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: b4its2late
Me too........Republicans have said this bill will bankrupt the country. The World-Wide Government Bubble
12 posted on 07/25/2009 12:51:43 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: tatown

Get ready for a purge of all the infidels in the CBO and the replacement of them with a czar.


13 posted on 07/25/2009 12:55:26 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: tatown

But what we are really talking about is:

a) Democrats admit they will be cutting services, not just costs and

b) Congress doesn’t want to be held accountable, just like with the military base closures. Let some unelected “board” make the tough choices so the elected pols can claim it wasn’t their choice. And, in fact, they are likely to grandstand to prevent the cuts which means the “savings” they are trying to save us won’t actually happen at all.

This is all just smoke and mirrors to get the Blue Dogs and a few RINOs on board. They all just want political cover when their enormous socialist power grab blows up in their faces as it surely will.


14 posted on 07/25/2009 12:57:02 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: tatown
KA-BOOM!!
15 posted on 07/25/2009 1:00:58 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: tsmith130

I think it means that in 10 years the seniors and the special needs people will be euthanized, so the savings will materialize.


16 posted on 07/25/2009 1:01:07 PM PDT by sportutegrl (If liberals could do math, they would be conservatives.)
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To: tatown

Does the cost REALLY matter? It is socialized medicine, it is not moral, it is wrong for this country. Period.

Why dicker about details? If it was revenue neutral would you support it? Of course not - it is socialism! Let’s not let this argument be framed ANY other way.


17 posted on 07/25/2009 1:01:16 PM PDT by StatenIsland (ON TO WASHINGTON 9/12/09 www.teapartysi.com)
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To: tatown

WONDERFUL! Just in time for the Sunday news shows.


18 posted on 07/25/2009 1:04:06 PM PDT by MrDem (From Morning in America to Mourning in America...)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“What ever happened to changing the tone and being post partisan?”

Please. You actually bought into that?


19 posted on 07/25/2009 1:06:01 PM PDT by Daniel II (I'm Jim Thompson, this is my brother Jimmy, and this is my other brother Jimmy)
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To: All

Somewhat off-topic but I have some wealthy retired cousins who travel a lot. This summer, they traveled to Labrador and Newfoundland and went north through Canada until they reached small villages inhabited by remaining small groups of Indians.

What they saw were communities with few jobs, no work incentive and everyone simply living off the government. The Canadian government builds them houses which they strip down so they have more firewood in the winter. Alcoholism is rampant and suicide rates are high becuase, frankly, these people have no reason to get up in the morning when their every sustenance is government-provided and controlled.

THIS is what liberals call “compassion”. And this is what they want to give America.


20 posted on 07/25/2009 1:06:44 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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