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House healthcare talks break down in anger
The Hill ^ | 7/24/2009 | Jared Allen

Posted on 07/24/2009 1:09:57 PM PDT by KansasGirl

House healthcare negotiations dissolved in acrimony on Friday, with Blue Dog Democrats saying they were “lied” to by their Democratic leaders.

The seven Blue Dogs on the Energy and Commerce Committee stormed out of a Friday meeting with their committee chairman, Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), saying Waxman had been negotiating in bad faith over a number of provisions Blue Dogs demanded be changed in the stalled healthcare bill.

“I’ve been lied to,” Blue Dog Coalition Co-Chairman Charlie Melancon (D-La.) said on Friday. “We have not had legitimate negotiations.

“Mr. Waxman has decided to sever discussions with the Blue Dogs who are trying to make this bill work for America,” Melancon said...

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"Waxman simply does not have votes in committee and process should not be bypassed to bring the bill straight to floor,” Rep. Mike Ross (D-Ark.), the lead Blue Dog negotiator, said on Friday. “We are trying to save this bill and trying to save this party.”

Melancon said there would be 40-45 “solid no” votes from the 52-strong Blue Dogs, among other problems throughout the caucus.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; arra; bhohealthcare; bluedogcoalition; bluedogdemocrats; bluedogs; cbc; congress; democrathealthcare; democrats; healthcare; henrywaxman; obama; obamacare; pelosi; rahm; socializedmedicine; waxman
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To: WayneS

Please, whoever witnessed Obamer’s birth in Kenya, please
come forward!


181 posted on 07/24/2009 9:22:16 PM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: KansasGirl
"“I’ve been lied to,” Blue Dog Coalition Co-Chairman Charlie Melancon (D-La.) said on Friday. “We have not had legitimate negotiations."

Thou shalt not betray a Cajun.

182 posted on 07/24/2009 9:52:55 PM PDT by matthew fuller (FUBHO)
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To: maggief
"Liars calling liars ‘liars.’ It’s a start."

Very soon after being sworn in January 2005, Melancon joined the Blue Dog Democrats. He is a fairly conservative Democrat by national standards — in fact, a section of his campaign site, "Louisiana Values," detailed his opposition to gun control, abortion and same-sex marriage. He later said that the 2004 election campaign was the first time in his life that anyone had called him a liberal. (From Wiki)

183 posted on 07/24/2009 10:07:44 PM PDT by matthew fuller (FUBHO)
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To: upcountryhorseman
Please, whoever witnessed Obamer’s birth in Kenya, please come forward!

Will that fool Biden be any better? Really, we don't get to do a "do over".
184 posted on 07/24/2009 10:10:45 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: matthew fuller

Yeah? Well, maybe for a Dem he was somewhat conservative in his first couple of years(Lifetime 46 ACU Rating) but Monsieur Melancon’s ACU numbers took a nosedive in 2007 and 2008 with 36% and 12% respectively. When push comes to shove he will vote the Pelosi way.


185 posted on 07/24/2009 11:11:28 PM PDT by princeofdarkness ("Obama Lied. Liberty, Morality, and Prosperity Died.")
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To: princeofdarkness

I know nothing about him, I just posted the Wikipedia description that he is anti gun control, anti abortion, and anti same sex marriages. If that is incorrect or has changed, then so be it . I have no dog fighting here.


186 posted on 07/24/2009 11:40:54 PM PDT by matthew fuller (FUBHO)
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To: KansasGirl

Communists lie. How many times does that need to pointed out? And yet congresscritters of both parties always seem so shocked when it happens to them. Don’t know why.


187 posted on 07/25/2009 1:30:19 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: xzins; All

“255 - 178 is the current balance of power. 40 no votes from blue dogs = 215 - 218, IF republicans stick together, which is no guarantee, since there are rinos loose in the land”

1. If the Blue Dogs have no confidence in the leadership, how long is it before they cut a deal with Republicans to vote all the leadership out?

2. How long will it be before Obama hires David Rodham Gergen to teach him to appeal to the milquetoasts?


188 posted on 07/25/2009 4:10:50 AM PDT by johncocktoasten (Practicing asymetrical thread warfare against anti-Palin Trolls)
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To: KansasGirl

Gridlock is GOOD!


189 posted on 07/25/2009 4:56:14 AM PDT by 2harddrive (S)
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To: olrtex

I hope that they don’t.
My friend our hope now rests in the hands of blue dogs.

I don’t care if they are democrats or republicans, if they are willing to stand with us for what is right, I am by their side.


190 posted on 07/25/2009 6:56:17 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: olrtex

Pelosi is no Dog Whisperer. She has a choke collar on them and is tugging frantically, but they are about to bite the hand that misleads them.


191 posted on 07/25/2009 7:02:04 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: Jeff Head

seems suspiciously like


192 posted on 07/25/2009 7:40:26 AM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: KansasGirl
:
Government-Run Healthcare

193 posted on 07/25/2009 7:44:21 AM PDT by Peter Horry (Never were abilities so much below mediocrity so well rewarded - John Randolph)
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To: KansasGirl

Blistering grassroots pressure appears to have forced Sen.
Majority Leader Harry Reid to seek some emergency relief by
announcing there would be no health care vote until after
the August recess.

But is it really good news?

Any delay is good, but Reid’s actions are little more than
political misdirection—a ploy to release some of the built
up pressure while the “dirty details” of ObamaCare can be
worked out and tidied up in the Senate Finance Committee.

Reid’s carefully calculated actions prove to me that we
are making a powerful—even historic impact! Imagine
the day after day deluge of petitions, faxes, phone
calls pummeling the Energy and Commerce committee—with
no end in sight!

Keith, we are overwhelming lawmakers.

With Obama breathing down his back demanding he get this done,
Reid had to do something to neutralize us. But that’s precisely
why we can’t fall for his “pressure release ploy.”

No, it’s paramount that we not allow Reid to silence us.

With ObamaCare now being worked on in the Senate Finance Committee,
I want to overwhelm them with a tsunami of protest from grassroots
Americans who refuse to allow the federal government to increase
their control over us by co-opting our health care system.

++ EMERGENCY Petition Delivery Wednesday!

Last week we directed petitions to multiple targets.
On Wednesday they will be delivered to the Senate Finance committee—
demonstrating to Reid and everyone else that
WE WILL NOT GO AWAY. WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED!

I’m asking ALL members of our team to help me rally an additional
50,000 citizen signers this weekend to help maximize our Wednesday
delivery by pushing us past the 300,000 mark!

Forward this message to 30-40 friends and family. Inform them
about Reid’s “pressure release ploy” and underscore to each the
importance of taking immediate action by signing our petition
and having a real voice in this unfolding and historic debate.

Click here to be included in our next delivery:

http://www.grassfire.net/r.asp?u=20491&PID=21718877

As the sordid details of ObamaCare leak out to the public it’s
becoming increasingly clear the true intent of this plan is to
exercise more control over the citizens of our nation.

Take immediate action with me by rallying your friends and family
today so that I can include them in our next delivery to Capitol
Hill this coming Wednesday!

Again, thank you in advance for your incredible support.

Steve Elliott, President
Grassfire.org

P.S: It’s the ObamaCare chart Democrats don’t want you to see.
In fact, they have outrageously refused Republicans to send it
out to their constituents! We have the chart, and we urge you
to take a close look. After review, we’re pretty certain you’ll
understand why Democrats don’t want it going out to the
American public!

Click here to see the contentious ObamaCare chart:

http://www.grassfire.net/r.asp?u=20491&PID=21718877


194 posted on 07/25/2009 8:00:01 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: KansasGirl
Although I am cynical - after all, a Rat is a Rat is a Rat - this is a good sign. Now God help any GOP member who goes wobbly at the last second.

Let the games begin...

195 posted on 07/25/2009 8:15:36 AM PDT by truthkeeper ("Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?")
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To: KansasGirl

agreed
keep calling and sending mail.

Get an address in that area and call, call .call

if the GOP had any brains they would be doing all they can with the blue dogs, make them feel welcome to the GOP etc.

The Dem party are full of bullies and even to their own.
The left radical loons just do not get it into the brainless sheep head that their agenda is that of a wacky one whioch no one wants except for a small handful of brainwashed students and aging hippies.
Nearly forgot also those elitist snobby idiots who live one way but want the rest to live differently.

For the left loons lurking.
Have you turned you A/C up to 80?
Have those in power on the left?
Have you been living in diverse areas like Dorchester MA or do you just say you like diversity?
Do you live in a ghetto where it is diverse?
Do you drive slowly to save energy?
Hope you don’t own a boat etc.
Hope you don’t live in a house bigger than 1200sq feet for a family of 5 .

I could go on with your hypocrisy but instead you will read this and then do the usual name calling instead of actually thinking about how hypocritical you lot are.

Stuck aren’t you becasue you don’t have a bumper sticker to address this


196 posted on 07/25/2009 9:06:18 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman , nothing else-- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: KansasGirl

Keep calling indeed!

If the stuff about 40-45 no votes is true, that means they’ll quite a bit short.


197 posted on 07/25/2009 10:17:02 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're definitely in the Rise of the Empire era, but is Obama Valorum or Palpatine?)
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To: Cheerio

He may not be much better but his chances of being elected in 2012 are a heck of a lot less than Obamas.


198 posted on 07/25/2009 12:05:20 PM PDT by conservativegranny
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

I’m with you, Biker Chick!!!


199 posted on 07/25/2009 1:46:32 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Lazamataz
"... he steals from the poor and gives to the rich."

"YOUR LUPINS OR YOUR LIFE!"

200 posted on 07/25/2009 1:59:29 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly. 2 Cor. 10:3-5)
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