Skip to comments.Scientists Outing ‘Gay Gene’ Myth
Posted on 07/24/2009 10:15:42 AM PDT by NYer
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National Association for Research
and Therapy of Homosexuality
Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays and
There is no gay gene, ping!
I wonder if denying a gay-gene will become like denying global warming.
Homosexuality is an OCD focusing on one’s own genitalia.
Thank you for spelling gene in lower case. I’m getting a complex from everything I’m blamed for.
There is a gay Gene. He lives down the street with gay Bob.
Three is no “Gay Gene”
“Butt” beware of GAYS IN YOUR JEANS!
While no one in my immediate family is homosexual, everyone that I have known that is has been so miserable with it that I cannot totally discount the idea that it may indeed have a strong genetic component.
The shame and ridicule they experience makes me believe that most would not be that way by choice.
There is still a lot we don’t understand about the influence of genetics, so I try to keep an open mind.
What I do strongly resent is the promotion/ indoctrination efforts by that community in our schools.
There is a critical element missing from the debate, that further complicates things. Importantly, though, it distinguishes humans from animals.
About halfway through gestation in mammals and humans, the testes of a male fetus excrete a small amount of testosterone, which is carried in their blood to their brain. This tells the male fetus’ brain that it should be a “male brain”. If this testosterone is not received, the brain of a fetus is, by default, female.
This process can, and is sometimes interfered with, both naturally and artificially. However, and this is the zinger, in animals, it will determine sexual behavior—but NOT in humans.
In humans, a person will be more masculine or more feminine, based on having a male or female brain, but it will NOT determine who they are sexually attracted to.
If a female animal receives testosterone in its brain, it will try and mate as if it was a male. If a male animal does not receive testosterone in its brain, it will exhibit female mating behavior.
Scientists even tried limiting testosterone to half of an animals brain, and discovered that it exhibits *both* male and female mating behavior.
But in humans, this is not the case. Even if all testosterone is blocked from reaching the brain of a male fetus, while the adult male will be very feminine in their behavior, liking and disliking what females normally like and dislike, the odds are strongly against their being homosexual. That is, even if they are very feminine, they will still have only an ordinary statistical chance of being homosexual.
Conversely, if a female human fetus gets testosterone in her brain, as an adult she will be very much a “tomboy”, but still be strongly sexually attracted to men, outside the usual statistical occurrence of lesbianism.
This was first examined by researchers in the 1960s, then the research was duplicated by the government at a much larger scale in the 1980s. The reason for this was increasing concern that chemicals in the environment could interfere with this process.
For example, farmers frequently use plant estrogen on their crops, both for size and yield. But plant estrogen is similar to human estrogen, and estrogen can interfere with testosterone. So the fear was that using plant estrogen on food crops could result in widespread homosexuality.
Which didn’t happen.
In the final analysis, this research should boost those that believed homosexuality is a social, not exclusively biological development. And if it is a learned social behavior, it might be unlearned.
The ‘gay gene’ theory has had its ups and downs. It was first proposed by a California professor back several decades ago (the sixties?) and the gay community attacked him and the theory. Being gay was deemed to be a lifestyle choice by proud gays at the time.
However, that changed with the advent of AIDs in the 70s & 80s. After all, there wouldn’t be any research funding for solutions to a lifestyle choice. The solution would simply be “Quit doing that and you won’t catch Aids.”
Ah, but if it were a genetic mandate, then the Aids sufferer had no responsibility for his malady. He was a victim of his genes and the rest of society needed to assist in developing a research program that would save all these victims.
Lots of research money was forthcoming after that gay gene argument was put forth and you don’t hear anything about a lifestyle choice much any more.
Some of us remember being taught this in university psychology courses (at least through the late 80's). And that it explained the choice of same sex relationships for some but not all, as chromosomal and other biochemical factors did explain it for others.
Most people with some sort of pathology are miserable, and most want out of it. But it's always easier to go with the flow rather than make the great effort that's necessary to change your deep-seated habits -- even if you have to put up with shame and ridicule.
And these days, the shame and ridicule is pretty minimal if you move somewhere like the Castro or Inman Park. Which is why there are so many more in-your-face homosexual agitators than there used to be.
I’ve known homosexual people throughout my adult life. “Pain and ridicule” is part of what each was looking for. They lived the victimhood to the max. Including my own sister.
It happens. My brother in law was the same way. Prima donna victim.
Where I grew up we had this girl in our neighborhood that was pretty fat — cute, but pretty fat. Anyway, someone suggested that she stop stuffing tweenkies in her mouth...low and behold, she dropped the weight and today, is really rather gorgeous...because someone suggested that she stop stuffing tweenkies her mouth and she followed a simple suggestion. Hhhhhmmmm, somehow, that same logic just seems to fit with someone thinking that they are a homosexual...I’m mean, you really only get fat stuffing tweenkies in your mouth...
You're absolutely right. Unfortunately, as already pointed out, the GLBT protagonists have already 'sold' society on homosexuality being genetic. This has garnered sympathetic support from Joe citizen all the way up to the President. And we, the taxpayer, will pay the ultimate price.
Other than cases where people have definite chromosomal issues, (very small minority of a small minority) like and extra X or SRY issues.
I think most of the inborn “gayness” has to do with pre-natal exposure to estrogens and androgens. Stress levels int he om have been shown to affect this as well as maternal exposure to phyto-estrogens.
I think there are some people who are naturally Bi-sexual, and they can swing either way and these people are the ones that “recruiting” works on because they are not giving up something they think they “like”.
I’ve never heard of this guy, Quinlan. If he’s for real, what a wonderful testimony to the real possibility that there’s hope for transformation from homosexual attraction. I don’t know why he’s been kept under raps. Perhaps the Gaystapo has a contract out for him.
With all due respect - rubbish.
Evolution is only possible with HETEROSEXUAL relationships, this is concrete and has not changed for millions of years.
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