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1 posted on 07/22/2009 5:49:29 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Seems I’m bugging you a lot today...:)

Psychiatrists operate from the “hollow and deceptive philosophies of this world”, ie, not from truth.

They tell their patients that the guilt they feel, or the compensatory behaviors they do for that guilt, need to be rejected, as the guilt is false. There really isn’t anything such as sin, and therefore you shouldn’t feel guilty about it.

The reality, the Christian worldview, is that sin is real, it is the cause of all problems and all “mental illness” (barring actual physical defects). The “cure” is to confess, repent, and let Jesus action on the cross cover for that sin.


2 posted on 07/22/2009 5:53:23 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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I have decided that bi-polar is not good enough for me and I am going to claim tri-polar.


3 posted on 07/22/2009 5:57:34 AM PDT by svcw (Legalism reinforces self-righteousness - it communicates to you the good news of your own goodness)
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Sounds like the explanation for 99% of all “apparent” mental illness. Sadly it makes those people who do have genuine mental health problems look bad.


4 posted on 07/22/2009 5:57:54 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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The part about reaching out to others is particularly nice.

The comments on bipolar disorder reveal a lack of knowledge about the effects of malfunctioning brain chemistry.

Persons with bipolar disorder can lead highly effective lives once they learn to deal with it.

Many of our most effective leaders have had the disease (Churchill comes to mind).

5 posted on 07/22/2009 6:00:55 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama is "An" AntiChrist...but is he "THE" AntiChrist? The jury is still out...for the moment!)
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This article echoes what I've thought for a long time.

I know a guy that stays in a fetal position in his bedroom while his wife works extra shifts to support him & their 4 children. His kids are on their own to fix their meals while he cries in the bedroom. They are under orders not to disturb him for any reason. He goes to a doctor that medicates him heavily. They are always having to "tweak" his medications. The doctor says he is bi-polar. Sometimes this man self-medicates himself by buying an eight ball of cocaine - those are usually his "up" periods.

All of this - I have always thought - was setting the stage for him to be able to start getting disability checks because "he can no longer work". He used to have a good job. He used to be a friend of mine, but now I think he is a useless jerk.

Depression runs in my family & I've had to fight it for years - but here is something that I've found works for me & it is illustrated in this article. It isn't all about me! The world doesn't revolve around me!

When I do something to help someone else - my depression magically goes away! It really does work! I believe the cause of depression really, really is - thinking too much about yourself. It is just that simple.

6 posted on 07/22/2009 6:01:21 AM PDT by alicewonders (Sarah Palin is the face of America's future.)
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"I have obsessive-compulsive disorder. Aren't I so unique and individual and quirky. HEHEHEHEHE!"
7 posted on 07/22/2009 6:01:37 AM PDT by Rodebrecht (If everybody just left everybody else alone, everybody would be a lot happier.)
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Even the earth is bi-polar.


8 posted on 07/22/2009 6:02:29 AM PDT by BipolarBob (It takes a Kenyan village to raise a US president.)
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Most of the “bipolar” persons I’ve met also had a history of childhood abuse. One such person had scars on her face from the day that mom threw drain cleaner on her.

These people have lots of issues, and dealing with them is very frustrating. In fact, I wonder if the childhood abuse was the result of parental frustration over the condition, rather than the condition coming from the abuse. At any rate, if someone comes in and says that they’re bipolar, you know you’ll have a lot of frustration with them.

In my experience, you still have to be firm with them. You have to NICELY defend your boundaries, such as telling them that your class starts on time, just as it ends on time, and that this student will not be an exception. If that student cannot meet those expectations due to health concerns, perhaps they need to quickly seem medical care.

This article tries to deal w/ the complex issues around depression, bipolar, mental illness, etc with the old “think happy thoughts” idea. While that indeed does work as one of many mental coping mechanisms, the truth is that it doesn’t work for some.

And, no, it’s not “SIN”, no more than a gall bladder attack is “SIN.”


12 posted on 07/22/2009 6:04:51 AM PDT by TWohlford
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usually don’t want to be helped

The system typically rewards people to remain sick. Those who know it, work it to their advantage and become professional 'sickies'.
The ones who are genuinely in need of medical assistance, seek temporary help and move on with their lives.


13 posted on 07/22/2009 6:08:00 AM PDT by SouthDixie (We are but angels with one wing, it takes two to fly.)
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But, in reality, it is our behavior that usually shapes our attitudes and our emotions.

I believe this to be very true, most of the time. Look at kids in skewl today, every trait of maleness restricted as "bad". What happens to those kids?

I see a lot of people sitting in cubes, hammering at the keyboard wasting their bodies that are profoundly unhappy.

True mental illness, the organic kind, is not the same

14 posted on 07/22/2009 6:08:07 AM PDT by NativeSon (got myself a Mrs on June 19, 2009)
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Bi-polar is the sickness du jour. When I was still on the job many of the people I dealt with on a day to day basis would tell me they were bi-polar. When asked what that was most had no clue. Why are you drunk? I'm bi-polar. Why did you beat your wife? I'm bi-polar. Why did you urinate in the street? I'm bi-polar. Why did you vote for The One? I'm bi-polar. Never ending......
15 posted on 07/22/2009 6:09:23 AM PDT by animal172 (Disgusted in Tennessee)
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16 posted on 07/22/2009 6:10:42 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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When did manic-depression become bi-polar?
18 posted on 07/22/2009 6:13:18 AM PDT by svcw (Legalism reinforces self-righteousness - it communicates to you the good news of your own goodness)
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It’s getting old, isn’t it? Everyone these days is bipolar

Hey, this psycho terminology is what keeps he psycho babble jerks in business.

It’s called job preservation.


20 posted on 07/22/2009 6:17:41 AM PDT by chainsaw (If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- P.J..)
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Ping.


24 posted on 07/22/2009 6:21:05 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (Do I really need to add the sarcasm tag?)
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I’m definitely hetero-polar.


25 posted on 07/22/2009 6:21:12 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (This tagline excerpted. To read more, click on MyOverratedBlog.com)
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Introspection is, by far, the most overrated “virtue” in modern society.

SnakeDoc


28 posted on 07/22/2009 6:23:22 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("Talk low, talk slow, and don't say too much." -- John Wayne)
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29 posted on 07/22/2009 6:23:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("If they taxed condoms and toilet paper, they'd have us coming and going." - Lazamataz, 2002)
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> The truth is that changing one’s behavior with an exercise in other-absorption, rather than self-absorption, will cure what most people label as depression. If that fails they should talk to a professional. If that also fails they should consider an experiment with prescribed medication.

I was going to tear the author of this piece a new one, until I read this second-to-last sentence.

As one who has Depression and who is Bi-Polar I can attest to the fact that both mental illnesses are real and that putting on a happy face does not fix either of them. Medication and therapy and self-discipline do, eventually.

However, it is also true that both mental illnesses are often mis-diagnosed or (worse) self-diagnosed by people who are self-absorbed. In which case altering one’s behavior will often fix whatever is ailing them.

If you are feeling Depressed (trouble sleeping, low energy, sluggish, malaise) see a Doctor. If you’re feeling Sad, see a comedy and cheer up.


31 posted on 07/22/2009 6:24:38 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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Better bi-polar than bi-curious.


38 posted on 07/22/2009 6:29:43 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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