Obama's Overseas Travel (Birthergate - Forwarded E-mail)

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[wac3rd]

More questions and this time some good questions...

[Arizona Carolyn]

I thought someone already did a week or two ago.

[jamese777]

Here’s a link to the state department’s travel advisory for Pakistan for August, 1981:
http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/travel/cis/southasia/TA_Pakistan1981.pdf

[McGruff]

Baghdad Bob Gibbs was asked about this during todays White house briefing and this was his reply.

Gibbs: What really happened is there was a huge tidal wave in Hawaii that wiped out all the birth records.

Yeah that's it. A huge tidal wave in 1961.

[Ann Archy]

OMG!! The Passport Witness was MURDERED!!!!

[tom h]

There is one other smoking gun that makes this all seem eerie and at least partially true.

Back in 2006, two years after Obama entered the Senate, and after he had been “chosen” by George Soros as the Democrats’ great black hope, Cheryl Herlihy, an attorney at a Chicago law firm affiliated with his campaign, wrote a law review article calling the “natural born” provision of the Constitution stupid, outdated, and undemocratic; and that those who defend it are “emotional”; and that globalization is one reason to eliminate the requirement.

Now I believe in coincidences but I just can’t swallow this one as a coincidence. Obama probably feels like an American, but has always been angry since he saw he had a political future, yet by some obscure legal argument (Kenyan born, Indonesian passport) he isn’t natural born.

One more interesting factoid. If proven to be illegitimate, he is not the first President in this circumstance. Really!

Chester Arthur, the 21st President, had similar murkiness to his background. There was considerable effort to cover up the truth, change dates, alter stories, so as to hide the fact that his father was a British subject when the future President was born.

World Net Daily has a summary of the above from last year. More links follow from there, I think, for those of you who are interested.

I find it fascinating that Obama might be our second fraudulent President, not the first.

[WVNan]

May have, I didn’t see it. Just wondering if it was the Ford Foundation that funded obozo’s trip to Pak.

[tom h]

Link for law review article:

http://www.cklawreview.com/issues/past/vol-81-no-1/

At the bottom of the page. Note how as examples of Americans denied the opportunity to become President, she mentions Swarzenegger, Henry Kissinger, and others, but not the Senator from her home state who is also bosom buddies with her law partners.

[usmcobra]

There is a link on the long thread(birther).

But yes it is true.

[Arizona Carolyn]

If we still have such a thing as investigative journalists in this country we might know the answer to your question.

[Jim Noble]

Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981? A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department's "no travel" list in 1981.

This is completely, totally false and has been debunked here many times.

From 1978-1987 I worked with a group of Americans who ran a research project in Boston and Pakistan. Many, many US citizens, to my personal knowledge, traveled between the US and Pakistan, and some resided in Pakistan for periods of up to two years, all during the period.

Since 1948, a US passport has NEVER been invalid for travel to Pakistan, not for one minute.

This falsehood, like a lot of internet foolishness, can't be killed - but you should stop believing and repeating it.

[MHGinTN]

And thanks to the fourth estate turned fifth column enemy of we the people in service to the affirmative action figure fraud-in-chief, media coverage is almost non-existent! One thing, Quarles was murdered in Washington in front of a church.

[Fresh Wind]

I think the correct term is “executed”.

[Mind-numbed Robot]

Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, ...

And that is exactly why he will stonewall as long as possible and will rush through Congress as much legislation as he can. He won't do anything unless forced.

We have so far been stymied at every turn but someone must continue to press the issue. Keep after Rush, Hannity, Beck, like minded Congressmen and media, etc., until the storm cloud builds and the issue must be addressed.

[Redwood Bob]

“...So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?...”

THAT is a good question. How DID someone 20 years old come up with that much cash to pay for that kind of trip? More and more enquiring minds wants, and needs, to know.

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Why is it that so many find this easy to believe:

Unemployed college students Obama, Sr. & Stanley Ann (in her third trimester), flew to Kenya in 1961 just to say hi to the folks, when international air fares were controlled by a cartel and 2 round trip tickets would have required years of dedicated saving by the average American worker. Credit cards? No way. Cash up front only. Stanley Ann gave birth to Obama, Jr. in Kenya but all three evaded Customs and Immigration, leaving no record of their return anywhere, while Granny Dunham went to the Registrar in Hawaii and swore Obama was born in Hawaii, and they took her word for it, generating the birth listing in the Honolulu papers.

But they find this hard to believe:

Obama flew to Pakistan in 1981 in the era of cheap flights (the international air cartel had been broken by Sir Freddie Laker and others), when banks were handing out credit cards to teenagers, and Obama’s grandparents were prosperous enough to put him through the prestigious Punahou private school?

Why?

[Wild Irish Rogue]

” Anyone know how long he stayed in Indonesia that time? “

His half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, said he eventually retreated to Bali for several months with his wife, Michelle,
“to find a peaceful sanctuary where there were no phones.”

Bali, Indonesia has a population of 2.5 million people.
It’s much more cosmopolitan than Fiji or Tahiti.
They have plush resorts with phones.
Lots of Aussies vacation there.
Which is why Al Queda targeted the Bali nightclub in 2002.
And while majority Hindu, Bali has 600 mosques.
In case the Obamas felt the need to worship.

While searching, I found a Bali blogger who said he had just read that the Obamas spent a year and a half in Indonesia, but, I couldn’t source that comment.

[PhiKapMom]

Wonder if Bill Ayers was in and out of Indonesia during that time because ZERO did not write that book.

[BunnySlippers]

Bump

[Will88]

While searching, I found a Bali blogger who said he had just read that the Obamas spent a year and a half in Indonesia, but, I couldn’t source that comment.

More mysteries surrounding this guy than in an Agatha Christie novel.

I have recently realized that while Michelle worked for Sidley and Austin, and Barack did a summer internship, I worked for a corporation who used S&L as our attorneys. Big firm, never heard of the Obamas, but an interesting thing to realize.

If they did stay on Bali for months, that raises the question of money. That place isn't cheap, at least during whatever their vacations season is.

[PhiKapMom]

Ayers wife, Dohrn, is the one that introduced Michelle and Obama BTW.

[TheBigJ]

It’s either his place of birth or his name, and it’s not something trivial. It’s going to bury him.

Zero wouldn’t take such drastic measures to scrub his passport application:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/20/obama.passport/index.html

From a fellow former CIA goon working for him:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/22/passport.files/index.html

And silence loose ends:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/apr/19/key-witness-in-passport-fraud-case-fatally-shot/

http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0408/512644.html