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Geithner says derivatives blindsided the gov't
AP on Yahoo ^ | 7/10/09 | Anne Flaherty - ap

Posted on 07/10/2009 10:11:59 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON – The huge amount of money tied up in complex derivative transactions helped cripple the economy, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner told lawmakers Friday as he laid out a case for greater government control over a generally unregulated sector of the financial markets.

"Establishing a comprehensive framework of oversight is crucial," Geithner said ..

Despite apprehension among Republicans, the effort to add government restrictions to these more freewheeling financial instruments has gained support within the Democratic-controlled Congress.

"Clearly, we're going to be significantly expanding regulation of derivatives," said Rep. Barney Frank, ..

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; barneyfrank; bhotreasury; blindsided; caption; derivatives; freepun; geithner; housing; stimulusepicfail; treasury
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oddly enough or not, the shadow gubamint wasn't blind-sided..
1 posted on 07/10/2009 10:12:00 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Just wait til they see the ‘Carbonized Debt Obligations’ and ‘Carbon Default Swaps’ in the Cap and Trade go wild!


2 posted on 07/10/2009 10:14:24 AM PDT by griswold3
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To: NormsRevenge

Great, Congress is going to write regulations for a product only MIT MBA grads understand.


3 posted on 07/10/2009 10:15:48 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Greed and envy is used by our political class to exploit the rich and poor.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Could never have been any derivatives without their underlying assets created via the Community Reinvestment Act and Fannie Mae.


4 posted on 07/10/2009 10:15:52 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: NormsRevenge

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; Burn this Mother DOWN and let’s get ON with our lives!

All this proping up and lames excuses are delaying the inevitable, and it is going to be ug-lee!


5 posted on 07/10/2009 10:15:58 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: NormsRevenge

...Geithner is crazy if he thinks he can stop Wall Street from coming up with new financial products....capital flows where it’s welcome.


6 posted on 07/10/2009 10:17:14 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: NormsRevenge; sickoflibs; bamahead; TigerLikesRooster; All

Sorta like how TurboTax blindsided ol’ Timmy, eh?


7 posted on 07/10/2009 10:18:03 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: stylin_geek

“Great, Congress is going to write regulations for a product only MIT MBA grads understand.”

At least John Thain can explain it to us ;-)


8 posted on 07/10/2009 10:20:38 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: rabscuttle385; NormsRevenge; sickoflibs; bamahead; TigerLikesRooster

Derivatives helped FUND the famous Bush economic recovery, you mean we couldnt just sell them forever? Ran out of buyers? Ponzi maybe? Remember thoose fun days when we partied and lived life big based on home equity loans paid by derivatives?


9 posted on 07/10/2009 10:23:27 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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To: NormsRevenge

Gee, didn’t the government sent Michael Milken to prison for creating junk bond derivatives about 20 years ago? That makes Geithner’s claim pretty preposterous.


10 posted on 07/10/2009 10:25:27 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Totally agree. A little duct tape and a little WD-40 is not sufficient. This mess can't be tweaked into working order. We will continue to limp in the wrong direction until the day comes when it all burns down. That will be the start of the real fix.

Painful, yes. But I really don't think it's avoidable.

11 posted on 07/10/2009 10:27:03 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I don't believe anything anyone says about anything anymore.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Get ready to stone the goat!!!

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Posted on 07/10/2009 5:31:52 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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12 posted on 07/10/2009 10:29:39 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: STONEWALLS

That’s the “problem” with freedom, when people have it they use it.


13 posted on 07/10/2009 10:30:15 AM PDT by FourPeas (Why does Professor Presbury's wolfhound, Roy, endeavour to bite him?)
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To: FourPeas

“That’s the “problem” with freedom, when people have it they use it.”

....yep...and I got more news for Geithner...if he makes things too onerous on Wall Street, there will be even more capital flowing out of this country into foreign markets.


14 posted on 07/10/2009 10:36:13 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: rabscuttle385; NormsRevenge; sickoflibs; bamahead; TigerLikesRooster; STONEWALLS

NOTE TO LITTLE TURBO TIMMY:

We don’t buy it and neither does anyone else ,, you went to parties and had dozens of these derivative billionaires in your inner circle for almost a decade.. You were blindsided? BS! you were right there. I still say wipe the derivative holders out ,, they are illegal insurance products.


15 posted on 07/10/2009 10:38:04 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: NormsRevenge; 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten; Abbeville Conservative; absolootezer0; AmericanMade1776; ...
CAPTION TIM:



FOR ONCE, CODE PINK HAS IT RIGHT!!

16 posted on 07/10/2009 10:38:44 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (War is when the government tells u who the bad guy is. Revolution is when u decide that for yourself)
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17 posted on 07/10/2009 10:39:45 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (ELECTION 2010 IS THE MOST IMPORTANT OF OUR LIFETIME! If you have to ask why, UR part of the problem!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Bill Klintoon, at the end of his term, signed the Commodity Modernization Act, which specifically excluded derivatives from SEC regulation, and prohibited regulation of hedge funds (Private Equity Firms). The bill was sponsored by Republicans.

Geithner is incompetent and a tax cheat and a lifelong government hack, but I think its right that the feds were unaware of the massive scale of the derivatives markets.


18 posted on 07/10/2009 10:42:18 AM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: NormsRevenge

I watched the webcast of the hearing on my webcast. Geithner was a slippery as a wet rock. It was clear they are going to do nothing to impede the super-profitable business of over the counter credit derivaitives like credit default swaps that have already cost taxpayers hundreds of billions and counting.

Risk analyst Christopher Whalen has done the most to expose the fraud behind credit derivatives. See story on his hard-hitting testimony before Senate Finance at this link: http://mindovermarket.blogspot.com/2009/07/credit-derivatives-largest-source-of.html


19 posted on 07/10/2009 10:42:42 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: NormsRevenge

Bump for later


20 posted on 07/10/2009 10:43:51 AM PDT by csvset
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