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Not So Fast With Those Electric Cars
Townhall.com ^ | July 8, 2009

Posted on 07/08/2009 6:11:46 PM PDT by Kaslin

Alternative Energy: A government report says reliance on electric cars will do little to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and may merely shift our dependence on foreign sources from one set of dictators to another.


It's a beautiful theory — highways full of electric cars emitting no greenhouse gases or pollutants after being plugged into an outlet in our garages overnight. The problem, according to a new Government Accountability Office report, is that the effort may only shift the problem somewhere else.

"If you are using coal-fired power plants, and half the country's electricity comes from coal-powered plants, are you just trading one greenhouse gas emitter for another?" asks Mark Gaffigan, co-author of the GAO report. The report itself notes: "Reductions in CO2 emissions depend on generating electricity used to charge the vehicles from lower-emission sources of energy."

The GAO report says a plug-in compact car, if recharged at an outlet drawing its power from coal, provides a carbon dioxide savings of only 4% to 5%. If the feeling of saving the environment from driving an electric car causes people to drive more, that small amount of savings vanishes entirely.

It's much the same effect we saw when the Corporate Fuel Economy Standards were passed in the '70s. Aside from forcing us into less-safe downsized vehicles that increased highway fatalities, the promise of more miles per gallon caused people to drive more miles. The promised energy independence never materialized as we imported more foreign oil than ever before.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: airpollution; alternativeenergy; bolivia; cafe; carbondioxide; clowncars; co2; electriccar; emissions; energy; evomorales; france; globalwarming; gorebullwarming; greenhousegas; hybrid; lithiumbatteries; nuclearpower; nuclearwaste; reprocessing; yuccamountain
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1 posted on 07/08/2009 6:11:47 PM PDT by Kaslin
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2 posted on 07/08/2009 6:13:06 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

A Captain Obvious moment of clarity.


3 posted on 07/08/2009 6:13:47 PM PDT by Francis McClobber
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To: Kaslin

...uh ... Has the author heard of nuclear energy? Couple it with electric cars, problem solved.


4 posted on 07/08/2009 6:14:08 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Kaslin

Plug into your garage over nite.... I dont have a garage, and would need a 100 foot cord, made out of oil bi products, to run to my car, and hope nobody steals the cord over night..and some people live in 100 story hi rises, that will be handy.. run an extension cord down in front over every ones scenic view...


5 posted on 07/08/2009 6:15:02 PM PDT by JoanneSD
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Even with coal, it’s still a good idea...provided they come up with some decent batteries. I don’t see that happening for at least 25 more years though.


6 posted on 07/08/2009 6:16:36 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

I’m all for nuke plants.

And the bonus is, if we go nuke for domestic electricity, we won’t need electric cars.

Give me a good old fashioned V8.


7 posted on 07/08/2009 6:17:19 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (The most dangerous fascists are those with a warm smile and soothing voice.)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Read the whole article; he’s calling for nuclear power development.


8 posted on 07/08/2009 6:17:55 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Francis McClobber

They need to sprinkle pixie dust on this problem, that will solve it. Oh I forgot, they also need to use that magic wand.


9 posted on 07/08/2009 6:18:22 PM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

did you look at the car in the editorial? I would rather walk before I would get into something like that


10 posted on 07/08/2009 6:18:43 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

It will hopefully cause people to drive gas guzzlers more if they can afford it.


11 posted on 07/08/2009 6:18:49 PM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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To: JoanneSD

Gimme a break. It wouldn’t be too hard to run power in an underground conduit to a recharging station at every parking spot. Parking meters with electrical outlets.


12 posted on 07/08/2009 6:19:08 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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13 posted on 07/08/2009 6:19:13 PM PDT by jessduntno (NEVER say Cap and Trade Bill. It's the Electricity, Heating Oil and Gasoline Tax Bill....)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Don’t give them any ideas.


14 posted on 07/08/2009 6:19:19 PM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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To: Kaslin

They are JUST NOW realizing this basic fact?

God, the cost of smug sure is high!


15 posted on 07/08/2009 6:20:11 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Kaslin

You’d change your mind after the first few days. Unless you are incredibly dense.


16 posted on 07/08/2009 6:21:13 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Kaslin

There are a multitude of reasons that electric cars are no solution as the technology exists right now.

But the “greenhouse gas” argument is complete and utter hogwash.

As I have pointed out many times over the last 30 years, most of the pie in the sky so called greener solutions are in the big picture, dirtier than coal and oil. And the GG portion of the argument is a hoax.


17 posted on 07/08/2009 6:21:53 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Problem is that electric cars are not rechargeable in the same timeframe that gasoline cars are. That, and they are more expensive.

Gas fillup = 5 minutes
Electric fillup = ???

If the alternative is less capable and more expensive, people will not switch.


18 posted on 07/08/2009 6:21:54 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Kaslin
As physicist Amory Lovins once put it, "Zero-emission vehicles are actually 'elsewhere-emission' vehicles."

I so love that sentence. What more needs to be said?

20 posted on 07/08/2009 6:25:08 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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