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Override to national health care on '10 ballot
East Valley Tribune ^ | June 23rd | Howard Fischer

Posted on 07/05/2009 3:17:07 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

Arizonans will get a second chance to decide if they want residents here to be able to opt out of any national health insurance plan approved by Congress.

Without debate, the state Senate on Monday voted 18-11 to put a proposal on the 2010 ballot that would constitutionally override any law, rule or regulation that requires individuals or employers to participate in any particular health care system. The House already has approved the measure.

HCR2014, if approved by voters next year, also would prohibit any fine or penalty on anyone or any company for deciding to purchase health care directly. Doctors and health care providers would remain free to accept those funds and provide those services.

Finally, it would overrule anything that prohibits the sale of private health insurance in Arizona.

The push comes as Congress is debating the concept of some sort of national health insurance plan, a plan that foes have equated to the national plans of Canada and Britain.

(Excerpt) Read more at eastvalleytribune.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: bho44; healthcare; obama; obamacare; socialism; statesrights; taxes; teaparty
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The states are fighting back!
1 posted on 07/05/2009 3:17:08 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Nullification lives!


2 posted on 07/05/2009 3:44:15 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
The states are fighting back!

Let's see if the people in those states do the same. Here in the People's Republic of New York, I have no such illusions that the comrades would do anything but overwhelmingly defeat anything that stands in their way of suckling on the "free" health care teat.

3 posted on 07/05/2009 3:49:18 AM PDT by Dahoser (The missus and I joined the NRA. Who says Obama can't inspire conservatives?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Go Arizona!

Fight back against Omoslem!!!

If this passed + everywhere else required gov’t Obamacare, I would move to Arizona.

We’re getting to that point. Everyone’s gotta live somewhere — I’ll live with the people who stand up to Omoslem and his Marxist takeover.


4 posted on 07/05/2009 4:09:00 AM PDT by Islam=Murder (The United States - surrendering to Sharia without a peep.)
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To: Dahoser

Upstate NY needs its own state.


5 posted on 07/05/2009 4:10:09 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

It’s high time states refuse to follow any mandate by D.C. that is not specifically granted to the federal government by the Constitution. The Tenth Amendment needs to be put in effect immediately by the states or they will be crushed under the load of debt leveraged by the spend-thrifts in Congress.


6 posted on 07/05/2009 4:10:59 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

One can only hope more states will do the same—GA included.


7 posted on 07/05/2009 4:15:03 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Bolick, . . . said he would argue that there is a "truly fundamental" right of individuals to decide how to procure and purchase health care.

"Among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness," our Natural Rights given to us at birth by "Nature's God," our Lord Jesus Christ.

Bolick is a talented jurist. Just as we have the right to earn a living, he will make a fine argument that we also have the God given right to choose with whom we do business, ie contract to receive health care.

Of course, convincing judges who never heard of the Natural Law foundation of our Constitution and subscribe to the "living and breathing" nonsense is another matter.

8 posted on 07/05/2009 4:16:55 AM PDT by Jacquerie (The only legitimate purpose of government is to secure our unalienable, Natural Rights.)
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Calling all FR Legal Beagles!

How do you read this as standing up to a challenge that goes to the SCOTUS?

Kittymyrib,

I agree it would be nice to see some other state legislatures passing laws that contradict the federal government. It is high time for a showdown over the Tenth Amendment and I think the court with Kennedy in the middle might be inclined to rule for the states (JMHO)

9 posted on 07/05/2009 4:17:14 AM PDT by lowbuck (The Blue Card (American passport): Don't leave home without it!!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

This is a beautiful sight! The states telling Obama F U.

Let’s hope all states see this and make something similiar.


10 posted on 07/05/2009 4:18:49 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: basil

ping for later


11 posted on 07/05/2009 4:37:37 AM PDT by basil ( It's time to eliminate all "Gun Free Zones")
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I like the idea, but see the probability that the feds will suck the money out of the state anyway and send it to NY, California, etc....

hh


12 posted on 07/05/2009 4:40:01 AM PDT by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
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To: mewzilla
Upstate NY needs its own state.

Sure, as long we can jettison Buffalo, Rochester, Albany, Syracuse-Ithaca-Binghamton and the extreme north:

Election Breakdown Map of NY State from NY Slimes Election Results 2008 (http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/map.html).

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13 posted on 07/05/2009 4:56:36 AM PDT by Dahoser (The missus and I joined the NRA. Who says Obama can't inspire conservatives?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Not going to fly constitutionally, each with the present SC.

But it would be interesting experiment to see how many uninsured would opt to remain so if they could obtain insurance by moving to another state - pretty tough for example if you are unemployed, or a low-wage job without insurance, not to look for options to provide health insurance for your family.


14 posted on 07/05/2009 4:56:45 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: mewzilla
Upstate NY needs its own state.

And downstate Illinois.

Let me amend that, Chicago needs its own state.

15 posted on 07/05/2009 5:10:58 AM PDT by Graybeard58 ( Selah.)
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Not going to fly constitutionally

Even if it did, the fed would threaten to cut off all federal funds to states not in compliance. Just like they did with the national 55mph speed limit years ago.

16 posted on 07/05/2009 5:14:49 AM PDT by Graybeard58 ( Selah.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

This kind of action by the States hasn’t happened in how long? The Ohio Senate just passed a resolution opposing Cap’n Tax. 19 or 20 States have passed 10th Amendment resolutions. What will the States do, when The One’s policies really start biting?


17 posted on 07/05/2009 5:18:43 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: SeeSharp

This measure, and the gun measure in Montana, are the types of state actions that will save our country from the 536+ pigs in DC.


18 posted on 07/05/2009 5:32:23 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: Jabba the Nutt

I don’t know. I do hope they fight back though. They have a constitutional right and mandate to do so.


19 posted on 07/05/2009 6:00:27 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (affordable housing for capitalists : driving an 18 wheeler)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I love being a Zonie! Especially since Nappy left for the DHS.


20 posted on 07/05/2009 7:17:38 AM PDT by Prince of Space (H.R. 2454 puts a new definition to the phrase “shovel ready.”)
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