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Coming Soon: The Nightmare From Up There
IBD Editorials ^ | July 2, 2009 | SALLY C. PIPES

Posted on 07/02/2009 6:06:44 PM PDT by Kaslin

In his recent speech to the American Medical Association, President Obama counseled Americans to beware "dire warnings about socialized medicine and government takeovers; long lines, and rationed care; decisions made by bureaucrats and not doctors."

Unfortunately for the president, there are a few Cassandras whose warnings are worth heeding. Chief among them are the millions of Canadians who have received substandard care at the hands of a government-run health system.

Before America emulates the Canadian model with a new trillion-plus-dollar health plan, it's worth examining whether government-run systems are all they're cracked up to be. As a Canadian by birth, I can assure you they're not.

A "culture of queuing" dominates my native land. In 2008, the average Canadian waited 17.3 weeks from the time his general practitioner referred him to a specialist until he actually received treatment, according to the Vancouver-based Fraser Institute.

That's 86% longer than the wait in 1993, when the Institute first started quantifying the problem. In 2008, more than 750,000 Canadians — 2.8% of the population — were on waiting lists.

My mother's case is instructive. In June 2005, she wasn't feeling well and thought she might have colon cancer. She asked for a colonoscopy but was told by her doctor that it was unnecessary. The doctor ordered an X-ray, which revealed nothing.

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1 posted on 07/02/2009 6:06:44 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: BerniesFriend; blaveda; Bookwoman; FrdmLvr; HoosierHawk; JDoutrider; KoRn; Stars&StripesNE; ...
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2 posted on 07/02/2009 6:08:16 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Bad Ass Mistake America)
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PLEASE FREEP MAIL ME IF YOU WANT TO TO BE ON MY IBD EDITORIALS PING LIST

3 posted on 07/02/2009 6:08:55 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Bad Ass Mistake America)
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To: fanfan

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4 posted on 07/02/2009 6:10:20 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: Kaslin

A “culture of queuing” dominates my native land. In 2008, the average Canadian waited 17.3 weeks from the time his general practitioner referred him to a specialist until he actually received treatment, according to the Vancouver-based Fraser Institute.

That’s 86% longer than the wait in 1993, when the Institute first started quantifying the problem. In 2008, more than 750,000 Canadians — 2.8% of the population — were on waiting lists.


A “culture of Queuing dominates my native land.”
Wow, that really sums it up!


5 posted on 07/02/2009 6:16:34 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait till it is free! "~ PJ O'Rourke)
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To: kanawa; Clive; exg; backhoe; -YYZ-; Former Proud Canadian; Squawk 8888; headsonpikes; AntiKev; ...
Thanks for the ping, Kanawa.


6 posted on 07/02/2009 6:20:03 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: socialismisinsidious

Ping.


7 posted on 07/02/2009 6:21:38 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: fanfan

Well, well, fanfan. There are many good things about Canada and Canadians. The national health care system is not one of them.

Can we not learn from examples? My country seems lobotomized.


8 posted on 07/02/2009 6:24:08 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Kaslin

Abort the very young. Leave the very old to rot in line.

And tell the rest what a great job you’re doing.


9 posted on 07/02/2009 6:24:09 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Kaslin

This is not about health care. It is about PEOPLE CONTROL.


10 posted on 07/02/2009 6:24:18 PM PDT by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: cll

Exactly


11 posted on 07/02/2009 6:25:39 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Bad Ass Mistake America)
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To: cll
It is about PEOPLE CONTROL.

Yes, it is. They also want to take over the entire student loan program. Who gets the loan, where they study, what they study, where they work after it's over. God help us as we do all that we can to help ourselves.

12 posted on 07/02/2009 6:26:47 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Kaslin
I recently talked with a gal at my racquet club who told me about her brother who lives in Canada and his over a year long battle in the hospital there. He is near death after several unsuccessful surgeries which have removed his colon and most of his stomach.

He tried to tell them that he suffered from Crohn's disease at the very beginning of his battle but no one listened. He tried to get second opinions but was denied.........

Her brother's ordeal has been the worst nightmare anyone could imagine. The Canadian healthcare system over the past year has systematically tortured her brother and he is now on his death bed. According to Anne, her brother is down to 50 lbs.....which may be an exageration but it doesn't matter.

13 posted on 07/02/2009 6:28:56 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This country isn't going to hell in a handbasket, it's riding shotgun in an Indy car....)
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To: Bahbah
Tell me. I'm on one of those lists.

Lobotomized....no brain at the top.....I'm not so sure.

I see Manchurian all over this, I'm sorry to say.

This isn't happening by accident. Imho.

14 posted on 07/02/2009 6:29:25 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: Kaslin
My rotten Canadian healthcare story:

I was in Winnipeg when I was struck down by a nasty respiratory virus. It would not subside regardless of OTC medicines and plenty of rest, so I needed to see a doctor. The people with whom I was working recommended a local ENT. I had to go through the rigmarole of signing up for their socialized healthcare in order to see the doctor. No way could I simply pay for treatment out of pocket, even as a foreigner.

After finally getting my healthcare card, I headed for the ENT's office. When I walked into his office (not an examining room?) he was sitting behind his desk smoking a cigarette. I kid you not. An ENT. With an office full of people with colds and respiratory problems.

After the examination, he told me that one of my ears was completely full of fluid and the other was half full. He could lance the eardrum to drain the fluid but he said that would not be necessary. I would be better in a few days. No medication. No nothing. Just "So long, eh?"

While flying home, I could literally hear bubbling in my ears on ascent and descent along with plenty of pain. My American ENT, after being examined me, said that I could have suffered serious hearing loss because of this man's incompetence.

Oh, Canada! Your healthcare really sucks.

15 posted on 07/02/2009 6:29:25 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Buy Gold and Guns Now!)
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To: Bahbah

“help us as we do all that we can to help ourselves”

We were able to come out of eight long years of socialist/statist nighmare. I’m sure the rest of the US will too.


16 posted on 07/02/2009 6:30:07 PM PDT by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: Dr. Thorne
I had to go through the rigmarole of signing up for their socialized healthcare in order to see the doctor. No way could I simply pay for treatment out of pocket, even as a foreigner.

BS.

17 posted on 07/02/2009 6:31:09 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: Dr. Thorne

And this kind of care is what the rats want to give us. No thanks


18 posted on 07/02/2009 6:33:20 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Bad Ass Mistake America)
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To: fanfan

I lived it, jerk. Don’t call BS what you didn’t live through.


19 posted on 07/02/2009 6:33:29 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Buy Gold and Guns Now!)
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To: Kaslin

From the title, I thought it was another lefty story about Palin.


20 posted on 07/02/2009 6:33:29 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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