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Posted on 07/01/2009 2:08:49 PM PDT by MNDude

I've received a Forwarded email today, and I'm not sure if it's true or not. Snopes has nothing on it. Can anyone verify if this is true or not?

Daschle's Statement on Senior Health Care

"Senior" status is something we all face (IF we're lucky), so read this. Especially note Daschle's statement about the elderly!

Bloomberg: "Daschle says health-care reform will not be pain free. Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them."


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1 posted on 07/01/2009 2:08:49 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: MNDude
Google is your friend.
2 posted on 07/01/2009 2:11:56 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: MNDude

I thought one of Obama’s daughters said that.


3 posted on 07/01/2009 2:12:57 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: MNDude

It’s on Bloomberg:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=aLzfDxfbwhzs
Ruin Your Health With the Obama Stimulus Plan: Betsy McCaughey
Feb. 9 (Bloomberg)
Commentary by Betsy McCaughey

Elderly Hardest Hit

Daschle says health-care reform “will not be pain free.” Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them. That means the elderly will bear the brunt.


4 posted on 07/01/2009 2:13:10 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: MNDude

I don’t think that’s precisely the wording, but that business about the elderly being more accepting of their infirmities is right out of Daschle’s book on health care.


5 posted on 07/01/2009 2:13:11 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: MNDude

http://www.examiner.com/x-12751-Birmingham-Biblical-Examiner~y2009m6d13-What-the-elderly-may-expect-from-the-Obama-administration


6 posted on 07/01/2009 2:13:23 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (I am John Galt...)
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To: MNDude

Snopes is biased Left. If they could debunk the statement (or muddle the defense) they will get around to it.


7 posted on 07/01/2009 2:13:47 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: MNDude

It is all over blogs, very similar to something we know that O’Bambi said last week. However, nothing I can find in Snopes yet on this one.

http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat=web&q=snopes%2C+Daschle+says+health-care+reform+will+not+be+pain+free.+Seniors+should+be+more+accepting+of+the+conditions+that+come+with+age+instead+of+treating+them.&itag=crv

Generally, my rule of thumb is if it is in an email, it is false. This one, however, even if not true, fits the pattern of statements we know that side has made.


9 posted on 07/01/2009 2:13:55 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: MNDude

And the Pravda brigade (Pravda Means Truth TM) has chimed in:

Daschle didn’t say seniors should accept rather that treat conditions that come with age
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/apr/03/chain-email/daschle-didnt-say-seniors-seniors-should-accept-ra/

We contacted McCaughey to see which parts of this were her words and which were Daschle’s.

The phrase that health care reform “will not be pain-free” is a direct quote from Daschle, she explained. She said the sentence beginning “Seniors should be more accepting” was her paraphrasing of an argument in Daschle’s book in which he quotes David Mechanic, a health care policy expert at Rutgers University, saying, “more and more of what were once seen as social, behavioral, or normative aspects of every day life, or as a normal process of aging, are now framed in a medical context. ... Whether wrinkles, breasts, or buttocks, impotence or social anxieties, or inattention in school, they all have become grist for the medical mill.”

We think it’s a stretch to summarize Daschle’s position as saying that seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them. Not treating wrinkles is one thing. Not treating, say, heart disease, is another. But that’s fair enough for McCaughey to opine. This is labeled an opinion piece. The point is that these are McCaughey’s words, not Daschle’s.

The last sentence, “That means the elderly will bear the brunt,” was her conclusion, McCaughey said.


10 posted on 07/01/2009 2:15:38 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Glenn
"I thought one of Obama’s daughters said that."

That's because Zero paraphrases everything said to his minions with "Who's yer Daddy?"
11 posted on 07/01/2009 2:16:03 PM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: MNDude

Obama has been saying more or less the same thing Daschle is credited with here, although the media haven’t run with it too much.


12 posted on 07/01/2009 2:19:27 PM PDT by squidly
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To: a fool in paradise

How old is Daschle? Arthritis might be visiting him soon.

He is already showing signs of dementia- but that has been going on for a very long time...


13 posted on 07/01/2009 2:38:27 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: a fool in paradise

or inattention in school”

Hardly a situation for the elderly.


14 posted on 07/01/2009 2:40:39 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: MNDude
Good grief, Dude...where have you been? Yes Daschle said that, others have linked to it. But that's not the worst of it...as for Obama, he agrees with Daschle:

Obama Wants to Let Those Pesky Geezers Die

Obama Discusses Deathbed Measures

Painkiller Healthcare?

See also:

Money News - Obama: Raise Death Tax to Pay for Healthcare

NY Times: Change in Estate Tax Suggested to Pay for Health Care

Obama: Euthanasia of the elderly may be necessary

Obama Administration Considers Pro-Euthanasia British-Style Health Care

Cal Thomas: Why Obamacare may beget euthanasia

The plan is to kill 'em a little faster and steal their life savings to keep up with the healthcare demand for those Obama deems worthy.

15 posted on 07/01/2009 2:51:47 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter

Yikes! It is true! Usually if I see something that insane, I just assume it is another made up Internet rumor.


16 posted on 07/01/2009 2:55:26 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: MNDude

There is an inconvenient fact here the very few politicians - Democratic or Republican - want to face, because is political suicide to do so.

Americans overwhelmingly believe that healthcare to of the elderly should not be “rationed”, and Americans overwhelmingly believe that they should not be more heavily taxed to provide it.

Many liberals avoid this dilemma by arguing that the steadily increasing cost of such care can be covered by government mandated increases in efficiency.

Many conservatives avoid this dilemma by arguing that the steadily increasing cost of such care can be covered by market imposed increases in efficiency.

The unpleasant truth is that as long as medical technology continues to extend life - especially the last decade or so of life - these costs will continue to increase relative to the rest of economy.

And and either rationing, or taxes, or both, must increase along with them.


17 posted on 07/01/2009 2:59:20 PM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: a fool in paradise

Tommy is getting “up there” in age himself, isn’t he?
Half the Senate should be on painkillers as their first (soon perhaps, final) course of treatment.


18 posted on 07/01/2009 3:19:49 PM PDT by silverleaf ("Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal ( Martin Luther King))
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To: MNDude

I believe that came from his best selling book.


19 posted on 07/01/2009 3:20:52 PM PDT by Vendome
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IE: “Getting aches, sores, and sicknesses, even dying, are all part of getting older; now shut up and dig that grave.”


20 posted on 07/01/2009 3:47:02 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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