Posted on 06/28/2009 10:13:32 AM PDT by maquiladora
URGENT -- Venezuela's Chavez says he will act militarily if the country's ambassador to Honduras is attacked or kidnapped during coup.
BULLETIN -- VENEZUELAN PRESIDENT CHAVEZ WARNS OF MILITARY ACTION AGAINST HONDURAS.
Venezuelan president Chavez says he will do "everything necessary" to abort the military coup in Honduras.
(Excerpt) Read more at twitter.com ...
I know Venezuela has been buying hardware for many years now, and has been looking to purchase diesel subs, has high performance aircraft and so on.
I don’t know much about them, but I would not be so quick as some posters are to jump to any conclusions.
They might very well be a bunch of no-loads.
But as any successful fighter pilot will tell you never, ever make any pre-judgements about your opponent. You treat each and every one of them as if he were The Red Baron himself.
We should do the same.
The article you linked to does not reference the actual impeachment provisions. The manner in which Zelaya was removed could very well be consistent with those procedures.
Russians....
Let's not forget that Zelaya asking the army to back him for his own nefarious reason, was essentially a coup in the making.
I might believe such procedures are unwise, but that does not mean they are unconstitutional according to Honduran constitutional law.
No doubt about it. The guy is a Marxist thug just like his amigo Hugo Chavez. He probably can rouse enough rabble to force through anything he wants to force through via an illegal referendum. But that just means he has become a law unto himself. He don’ need no steenkin’ constitution (and yes, the politically incorrect caricature was deliberate).
“Clinton and Nixon weren’t trying to be President For Life , to compare whats going on in Honduras to here is ridiculous.....,for you to compare the two is amazing.”
Thanks, yes I am amazing. I tend to think that what we did, removing someone from office by means of a slow, tedious and uncertain procedure (Clinton was not even removed, despite his clear violations of the law) was preferable to a military coup. Call me old fashioned.
A good article is Guide to Legal Research in Honduras
By José Miguel Álvarez and Jessica Ramos
http://www.nyulawglobal.org/globalex/Honduras.htm
It sounds as though the Honduras has impeachment procedures designed to remove a high elected official:
“3.3 Judicial Branch
The judicial branch of government consists of a Supreme Court of Justice, courts of appeals, courts of first instance (Juzgados de Letras), and justices of the peace. The Supreme Court, which is the court of last resort, has fifteen principal justices. The Supreme Court has fourteen constitutional powers and duties. These include the appointment of judges and justices of the lower courts and public prosecutors; the power to declare laws to be unconstitutional; the power to try high-ranking government officials when the National Congress has declared that there are grounds for impeachment; and publication of the court’s official record, the Gaceta Judicial. The court has three chambers— civil, criminal, and labor—with three justices assigned to each chamber.”
José Miguel Álvarez obtained a law degree from Universidad de Navarra, Spain. He also obtained an LL.M in Corporative Law from Universidad Complutense, Madrid and a Degree in IP Law from Universidad de Salamanca. He is a member of the Honduras Bar Association; currently he is an associate of Consortium-J.R Paz & Asociados.
Jessica Ramos obtained a law degree from UNITEC, Honduras. She is a member of the Honduras Bar Association; currently she is an associate of Consortium-J.R Paz & Asociados.
This “trouble = ice cream” meme is great...
I believe the fact that the Honduran Supreme Court issued an order approving or directing his removal is strong circumstantial evidence that it was all done consistent with the Honduran constitution. I could be wrong. Our own Supreme Court has sometimes usurped authority that the Constitution does not give it. But I still haven't seen any evidence that Zelaya's removal was unconstitutional according to Honduran (not US) constitutional law.
Still waiting.
I’ve got a friend who’s in Nicaragua for a month. Hope the situation stays calm. :(
I really don’t trust Obama to do much of anything. Look at all he did to support freedom and rule of law in Iran... I’m afraid if anything happens, he won’t deign to intervene in such a complex and complicated matter. After all, it’s only masses of people seeking freedom, nothing too important...
Not at all. I understand that if you have air superiority then winning the ground war is easier. However, just having air superiority, while your ground troops are getting slaughtered doesn’t help. So Venezuela might have a better air force, but not a better army. Unless your telling me that airplanes can occupy land?
“The Honduran Supreme Court said it had ordered the army to oust President Manuel Zelaya on Sunday..”
So maybe the Supreme Court can order the army to remove anyone it wishes. That would mean everyone who is president has to kowtow to the Supreme Court. Could be. The question remains, is the army obligated under the constitution to follow the Supreme Court’s orders?
Again, exactly how was his removal from office unconstitutional? A judicial decree—particularly one issued by a supreme court—is presumed to be lawful, regular, and constitutional. What is your evidence, apart from your own personal dislike of how it was done, that it was unlawful or unconstitutional?
Ho hum. Didn’t you know Michael Jackson died?
You can only hope. You know what happened after the 70s.
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