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Round Up Hate-Promoters Now, Before Any More Holocaust Museum Attacks
CBS News ^ | Jun 11, 2009 | Bonnie Erbe

Posted on 06/12/2009 1:03:03 PM PDT by Lorianne

If yesterday's Holocaust Museum slaying of security guard and national hero Stephen Tyrone Johns is not a clarion call for banning hate speech, I don't know what is. Playwright Janet Langhart Cohen appeared on CNN yesterday right after the shooting, as she wrote a play that was supposed to have been debuted at the Holocaust Museum last night. Her play is about Emmett Till, whose lynching helped launch the Civil Rights Movement, and Ann Frank, whose diary told the story of Holocaust victims in hiding in the Netherlands during World War II.

She said something must be done about ridding the Internet and the public dialogue of hate speech. I agree. Not only have we had three hate crime murders within the last two weeks (Mr. Johns, as noted above, Dr. George Tiller a week ago last Sunday, and Pvt. William Andrew Long by an American-born Muslim convert outside a recruiting station just before that.)

Now we have this quote from Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who used to be President Obama's pastor. Hate comes from among all peoples and all religions. He said this about his lack of communication with Barack Obama since he's been elected president:

"Them Jews ain't going to let him talk to me. I told my baby daughter that he'll talk to me in five years when he's a lame duck, or in eight years when he's out of office," Wright told the Daily Press of Newport News following a Tuesday night sermon at the 95th annual Hampton University Ministers' Conference.

It's not enough to prosecute these murders as murders. They are hate-motivated crimes and each of these men had been under some sort of police surveillance prior to their actions. Isn't it time we started rounding up promoters of hate before they kill?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; constitution; hatecrimes; mindcrime; thoughtcrime
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To: Petronski
I keep hearing the echo about "not letting any good crisis go to waste".
61 posted on 06/12/2009 2:14:11 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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“Roundup the hate promoters.....” Start with Rev. Wright, Letterman and Michelle Obama. Second tier Schumer, Pelosi, Barney Frank and the homosexual lynch mob that destroyed the lovely and brave Ms. California.


62 posted on 06/12/2009 2:18:11 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: Lorianne

Interesting that the hate promoters have not been rounded up after attacks on Christian Churches and Jewish airline counters.


63 posted on 06/12/2009 2:21:48 PM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

“who,exactly,gets to determine what is hate speech and what isn’t?
Why,the government,of course—our impartial(snicker),tolerant(choke) government! Get ready for the gulags!


64 posted on 06/12/2009 2:26:28 PM PDT by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: Lorianne

I would suggest that the demented idiot of the article read Ray Bradbury’s “Farenheit 451” - where anything “offensive” to anyone is banned.

I would first suggest that all her articles be banned first - since they are offensive to me ...but it then creates an interesting contradiction.


65 posted on 06/12/2009 2:37:07 PM PDT by Vineyard
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

good point. who determines what is or is not hate speech?

To some people, stating that you believe marriage should be between a man and a woman is hate speech. Where the lines are to be drawn, and who draws them, is what makes the idea of rounding people up unsettling.


66 posted on 06/12/2009 2:45:25 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Vineyard

silly you..it doesn’t count if it’s offensive to you..you’re one of those conservatives so you need to take it..but if you dish it out to a liberal, beware..


67 posted on 06/12/2009 2:48:26 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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To: Lorianne

They want to arrest Rev. Jeremiah Wright/


68 posted on 06/12/2009 3:04:15 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: cripplecreek

Well, what we ignore is that the left gets to define who are the “people.” If you’re not in their definition, no rights for you!


69 posted on 06/12/2009 4:44:44 PM PDT by livius
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To: Lorianne
Okay, I'm finding myself in a position of supporting the right of Rev. Jeremiah Wright to speak

Let him speak. It's fun to use his words to poke the ears of my Liberal friends.

70 posted on 06/12/2009 5:25:39 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Gitmo detainees to Alcatraz!)
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To: Lorianne

By all means the Rev should speak, often and loud.
Best way to know what an evil nasty turd this “Uncle” of Zero’s is...


71 posted on 06/12/2009 5:29:04 PM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: Lorianne

Would Bonnie Erbe object to being locked up by those who consider her writings hate speech?


72 posted on 06/12/2009 5:35:09 PM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: cripplecreek

The real question about the Holocaust Museum shootings: what drove James von Brunn, by all accounts an intelligent man who served his country honorably in World War II, to this terrible end?

Don’t expect to read the answer — or even the question — in the mainstream media any time soon.


73 posted on 06/12/2009 8:46:23 PM PDT by Donald Braaden
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To: Sherman Logan
A tragic death indeed, but that's not what makes a person a "hero", it makes him a victim.-Owl_Eagle

When a man dies defending others, in this case successfully, in my book that makes him a hero.-Sherman Logan

You make a very interesting point, Sherman. I hadn't thought of it that way.

74 posted on 06/13/2009 7:36:25 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Owl_Eagle

So what’s your definition of a hero?

The term is tossed around promiscuously, but seldom defined.

BTW, I agree with you that we have tangled up the concepts of hero and victim to a disconcerting degree.

They are very different things. In fact, I think a true hero, whatever his fate, is never really a victim. He can be killed but not defeated.

I also think that someone who fights bravely to defend himself is not necessarily a hero. That can be just the survival instinct kicking in. Someone who voluntarily puts himself in harm’s way to protect others is my definition.


75 posted on 06/13/2009 10:55:38 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles, reality wins all the wars)
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To: Sherman Logan
They are very different things. In fact, I think a true hero, whatever his fate, is never really a victim. He can be killed but not defeated.

I also think that someone who fights bravely to defend himself is not necessarily a hero. That can be just the survival instinct kicking in. Someone who voluntarily puts himself in harm’s way to protect others is my definition.

I think mine would be pretty close to that. I don't think it necessarily has to be voluntary, just so long as the person puts the welfare of others in front of his own. It doesn't have to be one incident, it could be sacrifices a person makes daily.

Although, generally, I like to think this kind of thing through much more than I have. I guess that's a working definition for the moment.

Interestingly, I have a somewhat similar vocation to this man (military/law enforcement), and it never occurred to me that if I died in the line of duty, that I would be considered a hero for it.

Your comment certainly sparked a lot of thought for me, and I thank you for that!

76 posted on 06/14/2009 10:19:38 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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