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Germany Seeks to Avoid Taking Uighurs
Der Spiegel (Germany) ^ | June 8, 2009

Posted on 06/08/2009 10:34:24 AM PDT by Schnucki

US President Barack Obama had been hoping that Germany would take nine Guantanamo detainees deemed ready for release. But Berlin has presented a list of conditions -- which likely can't be met.

During his brief visit to Germany last week, US President Barack Obama told the gathered press in Dresden that, when it came to the possibility of Germany accepting some of the Guantanamo prisoners due to be released, concrete demands were not yet on the table.

"We have not asked (Chancellor Angela Merkel) for hard commitments, and she has not given us any hard commitments beyond having a serious discussion about (whether there are) ways that we can solve this problem" Obama declared.

Strictly speaking, that may be true. But according to information obtained by SPIEGEL, Germany has long since blocked the idea of accepting Guantanamo detainees -- and has done so without having to issue an outright rejection.

In talks at the end of May, German Interior Minister Wolfgang Schäuble presented US Attorney General Eric Holder with a list of criteria to be fulfilled before Germany would take nine Uighur detainees. Schäuble said Washington needed to present a clear case as to why the Uighurs, members of a Muslim minority in north-western China, couldn't be taken in by the US or other countries. He also said America had to offer proof that they weren't dangerous, and that they had a personal connection to Germany. He told Holder that Germany was unable to accept people who couldn't travel to the US on a simple tourist visa.

While Schäuble didn't say "no," the criteria may be prohibitive. In reporting on the discussion to the Chancellery, Schäuble's office presented the conversation as a rebuff of the US request.

As part of Obama's efforts to close the Guantanamo prison, the White House

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: democrat; democrats; germany; gitmo; globaljihad; guantanamo; impeachobama; obama; tm; uighurs

1 posted on 06/08/2009 10:34:24 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: Schnucki

Why should Germany or anyone in their right mind want them?
Send them back to China, they’ll be glad to see them!


2 posted on 06/08/2009 10:37:37 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

That would be worse than waterboarding. ;)


3 posted on 06/08/2009 10:38:14 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: Schnucki

It really is fun hearing the talking heads try to pronounce the name without over-pronouncing the name.

You know what I mean ;)


4 posted on 06/08/2009 10:39:40 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Schnucki
Why aren't the Muslim countries falling all over each other, competing for the privilege of hosting these fine lads? After all, it is, in part, their harsh criticism of America that has Gitms closing its doors.
5 posted on 06/08/2009 10:46:13 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Schnucki

Germany has no reason to accept them, they have nothing to do with Germany. If we don’t care enough about them to keep them locked up, why should anyone else?

And if we no longer consider them a threat, if they would be safe living in Germany, then why not the United States? If we don’t want them, why should anyone else want them?

The right answer, if it isn’t safe to return them on the next flight to China, is to return them to Afghanistan where they were found and let them find their own way from there, let them decide from there what they want to do.


6 posted on 06/08/2009 10:49:39 AM PDT by marron
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To: JimSEA
Why aren't the Muslim countries falling all over each other, competing for the privilege of hosting these fine lads?

Exactly. That is the right answer. Either send them back to Afghanistan or Pakistan if we don't consider them a threat, and let them figure it out from there. Or else let the Saudis step forward and make room for them; they use a large number of foreign workers there, they would fit right in.

7 posted on 06/08/2009 10:53:40 AM PDT by marron
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To: Schnucki

preconditions? Let me guess.

They all must pay for their own healthcare...
They all must be self-supporting...
They all must become fluent in German...


8 posted on 06/08/2009 11:12:24 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Schnucki

Give ‘em all a shovel and have them each dig a six-foot-deep hole. You fill in the rest. No muss — no fuss. And let it be known that this is what happens to people who act this way.


9 posted on 06/08/2009 1:11:04 PM PDT by szweig (Had it up to here)
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RECAP:

SPIEGEL.de: "GERMANY SEEKS TO AVOID TAKING UIGHURS" (June 8, 2009)

INTERNET-HAGANAH.com: "IF ANYONE IS ABLE TO EXPLOIT INTERNET USE BY JIHADIS...much to the detriment of the jihadis, it is China." (June 4, 2009)

Corner.NATIONAL REVIEW.com: "UIGHURS: SOMETIMES, THE OBAMA FRIDAY NIGHT BAD NEWS DUMP IS BAD FOR THE LEFT [Andy McCarthy]" (Friday, May 29, 2009)

SCOTUS BLOG.com: "U.S. OPPOSES UIGHURS' PLEA" by Lyle Denniston (Update May 29, 2009, 9:00 pm)

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LONG WAR JOURNAL.org - blog: "THE UIGHURS, IN THEIR OWN WORDS" by Thomas Joscelyn (April 21, 2009, 10:10 am)

TREAS.GOV - UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY - TG-92: Washington, DC - "TREASURY TARGETS LEADER OF GROUP TIED TO AL QAIDA" (April 20, 2009)

COUNTERTERRORISM BLOG.org: "NEFA FOUNDATION: TRANSCRIPT OF TURKESTAN ISLAMIC PARTY (TIP) TRAINING CAMP VIDEO" by Evan Kohlmann (April 16, 2009, 1:18 am)

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COUNTERTERRORISM BLOG.org: "NEFA FOUNDATION: VIDEO OF TURKESTAN ISLAMIC PARTY (TIP) TERRORIST TRAINING CAMP IN PAKISTAN" by Evan Kohlmann (April 14, 2009)

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COUNTERTERRORISM BLOG.org: "NEFA FOUNDATION: TRANSLATED COMMUNIQUES FROM THE TURKESTAN ISLAMIC PARTY (TIP)" by Evan Kohlmann (April 13, 2009, 12:06 am)

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10 posted on 06/08/2009 2:35:36 PM PDT by Cindy
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