BREAKING - Two American journalists convicted and get 12 years in N. Korea labor camp!

Where’s her SMART POWER

261 posted on 06/08/2009 8:05:34 AM PDT by omega4179 (America is a Christian Nation)

MSNBC and CNN will report Bush ordered these two women flown into N. Korea piloted by Karl Rove and using the Bush admin’s top secret hurricane producing green house gas emitting jets.

262 posted on 06/08/2009 8:15:25 AM PDT by Brytani (DC Freeper Convention and National Tea Party - FreepMail Me for rooms and convention info!)

To: doug from upland

Let’s trade all the democrats in both houses of congress, the WH, the State Dept, in the cabinet, on the Supreme Court, state governors, and state houses for the two reporters. Even trade.

263 posted on 06/08/2009 8:22:46 AM PDT by b4its2late (I love defenseless animals, especially in a good gravy.)

To: AmericanInTokyo

I can’t believe how stupid the currenTV people are; they probably did no research on Korea and how they view their own people etc.

Send a couple of white men and this will NEVER happen. North Koreans only play by one set of rules: theirs.

My solution to the problem would be for the US/Japan/SK to immediately revoke all food/$ assistance until they are released. Of course, then China would somewhat fill the gap.

264 posted on 06/08/2009 8:30:44 AM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))

I'm not familiar with Laura Ling's work, or with Current, but this "reporter" did manage to travel legally in NK -- and though it's an attempt at lightheartedness, it's still chilling. (Caution: the site is a bit NSFW, but not pornographic.):

The Vice Guide to North Korea

Ling and her companion could have been set up, to be used as a bargaining tool -- just as this reporter could have been detained. It's risky business.

265 posted on 06/08/2009 8:31:45 AM PDT by browardchad

Well, its more of the fact that they sent an Asian woman into a regime that has no qualms with raping women. It’s the whole insider/outsider thing. As a starved and desperate NK soldier, you can take a lot more liberties with a female that looks like you then a white guy who doesn’t speak your language and knows nothing about you.

The soldiers raped these women and NK is trying to hide it. They’re trying to make nukes as quietly as possible, and a couple of raped professional women aren’t going to help their standing in the world.

266 posted on 06/08/2009 8:37:58 AM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))

Sentenced to 12 years, dead in 2 or three years tops.

267 posted on 06/08/2009 8:40:15 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (tot)

To: doug from upland

Hey as representatives of the American Press they should be allowed to go anywhere, say anything and do everything, shouldn’t they?

268 posted on 06/08/2009 8:41:49 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")

To: divine_moment_of_facts

What is the nationality of Laura and Lisa - North Korean?

269 posted on 06/08/2009 8:53:09 AM PDT by Bronzy

Or this man could go without approval as he did in 2005

Governor Richardson will hold nuclear talks with North Korea: report
Richardson’s aides said the governor had been invited to North Korea in late May ... this year, but that both times the White House declined to give its approval. ...

270 posted on 06/08/2009 9:02:25 AM PDT by Bronzy

To: doug from upland

Why not trade them some Guatanamo detainees? No one else wants them!

271 posted on 06/08/2009 9:05:52 AM PDT by GWMcClintock ("When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?" Ps. 11:3)

To: rexgrossmansonlyfan

You said — Thank you spokesperson for Kim Jong Il justifying this. Why don’t you go over there since it’s so wonderful?

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Uhhh..., no..., the point was *don’t go over there* — unless one is as stupid as a bump on a log — which those reporters apparently were...

272 posted on 06/08/2009 9:07:47 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)

You said — Interestingly, they have been well kept in a foreign diplomat hotel and have been well attended to by the Austrian Embassy. So treatment so far has been unusually benign.

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They’re being re-educated to write good things about N.K.’s illustrious leader...

That shouldn’t really require too much of an effort, since they are most likely dyed-in-the-wool liberals... :-)

273 posted on 06/08/2009 9:11:40 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)

Clinton is now considering an idea perhaps to put them back on the “bad” list now though ... maybe ...it depends ...

274 posted on 06/08/2009 9:11:48 AM PDT by Munz ("We're all here for you OK? It's a circle of love" Rham Emanuel)

To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

You said — Zero strikes again!

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Ummm..., I was thinking more like “liberal idiocy of the MSM reporters” strikes again... LOL...

275 posted on 06/08/2009 9:12:35 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)

To: americanophile; Travis McGee

God help them. Seriously. What an unmitigated horror the North Korean concentration camp system is.

I hope they find Christ if they haven't already. OTOH, it's a sort of poetic justice because such a camp is EXACTLY where the media wants gun owners to go for their steadfast allegiance to the original intent of the Founding Fathers. This is just the sort of thing Travis McGee discusses in his novels.

276 posted on 06/08/2009 9:24:21 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)

You said — If Reagan or even W. Bush were president, this would not stand...

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Ummm..., not necessarily... Reagan didn’t do anything about the Soviets shooting down KAL Flight 007, and neither did Reagan do anything about the bombing at the Marine barracks in Lebanon, except just get out of there...

And also, the Chinese delivered a “cut up plane” back to the U.S.... LOL... And President Bush didn’t do anything about our Diplomats being killed in Gaza by the terrorists either...

Presidential Crises - Hostages and/or Killings of Military and Civilians

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Truman — Killed (31), Berlin Blockade, USSR Military, East Germany
Eisenhower — Hostages (1), Gary Powers U2 Incident, USSR Military, USSR
Kennedy — Hostages (Berlin), Berlin Crisis of 1961, USSR Military, East Germany
Kennedy — Killed (118), Bay of Pigs Invasion, US Military, Cuba
Kennedy — Killed (0), Cuban Missile Crisis, US/USSR,
Johnson — Killed (34), USS Liberty, Israel
Johnson — Hostages (82/1 Killed), USS Pueblo, 11 months, North Korea
Johnson — Killed (0), Gulf of Tonkin Incident, N. Vietnamese Torpedo Boats, North Vietnam
Nixon — Killed (2), US Diplomats, Black September/Arafat, Sudan
Ford — Hostages (40/21 servicemen killed), SS Mayaguez, Khmer Rouge, Cambodia
Ford — Killed (2), Axe Murder Incident (two US Army Soldiers), NK Army, North Korea
Carter — Hostages (52), Tehran Embassy Hostages, 444 days, Iran
Carter — Killed (8), Operation Eagle Claw, C-130, Iran
Reagan — Killed (0/0 foreign; jets shot down), 1981 Gulf of Sidra Incident, US Air Force, Libya
Reagan — Killed (62), KAL Flight 007 Shootdown, USSR Air Force, USSR
Reagan — Killed (19), Operation Urgent Fury, US Military, Grenada
Reagan — Killed (241), Marine barracks bombing, Islamic Terrorists, Lebanon/Iran
Reagan — Hostages (20), Civilian Hostages, Islamic Terrorists, Lebanon/Iran
Reagan — Killed (5), Civilian/Military Killings, Islamic Terrorists, Lebanon/Iran
Reagan — Killed (1), Army Maj. Arthur D. Nicholson Incident, Soviet Military, East Germany
Reagan — Killed (6), Zona Rosa Attack, Central America Revolutionary Workers’ Party, El Salvador
Reagan — Killed (3), Berlin Discotheque Bombing, Libyan Intelligence/Gaddafi, West Germany
Reagan — Killed (0/unknown foreign), Operation Attain Document, US Air Force, Libya
Reagan — Killed (2), Operation El Dorado Canyon, USAF, Libya
Reagan — Killed (290/foreign), Iran Air Flight 655/USS Vincennes, US Military, Persian Gulf/Iran
Reagan — Killed (37), USS Stark Missile Attack (FFG-31), Iraq Air Force, Iraq
Reagan — Killed (0/2 foreign), 1989 Gulf of Sidra Incident, US Air Force, Libya
Bush — Killed (24), Operation Just Cause, US Military, Panama
Clinton — Killed (90), Waco Siege/Branch Davidians, US Government, USA
Clinton — Killed (6), 1993 World Trade Center Bombing, Al Qaeda, Afghanistan
Clinton — Killed (168), Oklahoma City Bombing, Domestic/Foreign Terrorists*, USA/Iraq*
Clinton — Killed (19), Black Hawk Down, Islamic Warlords, Somalia
Clinton — Killed (17), USS Cole Bombing (DDG-67), Al Qaeda, port in Yemen
Clinton — Killed (142), TWA Flight 800, Foreign Terrorism [controversial*], Terrorists
Clinton — Killed (19), Khobar Towers Bombing, Hizballah Al-Hijaz [terrorists], Saudi Arabia
Clinton — Killed (12), 1998 US Embassy Bombings, Al Qaeda/Osama bin Ladin, Tanzania/Kenya
Clinton — Killed (0/35 foreign), Operation Infinite Reach, US Air Force, Afghanistan/Sudan
Bush — Hostages (24), Hainan Island incident (EP-3 Aries), 11 days, China
Bush — Killed (2,998), 9/11 Attack, Al Qaeda, Afghanistan
Bush — Killed (3), US Diplomatic Security Specialists, PA Terrorists, PA Territory/Gaza
Bush — Killed (19), Riyadh Compound Bombings, Islamic Terrorists, Saudi Arabia
Bush — Killed (1), Khobar Massacre, The Jerusalem Squadron/Al Qaeda, Saudi Arabia
Obama — Hostages (1), MV Maersk Alabama Piracy, Somalia Pirates, Somalia

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Please help add more so I can update this. If there is another event that happened within a particular President’s term (hostages taken, military killed in actions regarding the crisis, etc...), give me the info and any pertinent links. Still working on it and adding information...

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Here’s where it all started, and then some FReepers started giving me some more events.. :-)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2226437/posts?page=5#5

AND THEN... it’s turned into this one... LOL...

277 posted on 06/08/2009 9:24:54 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)

Oh come on! This is a very small potatoes problem for SNOBama. He’ll just talk to kImentally-ill for twenty minutes on the phone, and he’ll have those gals on their way back to algore carrying lollipops and roses. Don’t you share his certainty that everyone in the world just wants to get along? “All we need is love!”, and he sure has it for everyone! Certainly, that won’t escape NK’s wonderful diplomats and leadership. The only reason Ol’Hitlery failed because she doesn’t completely believe that.

Everyone is overreacting... besides that, it isn’t like these are Americans who are valuable enough to subsidize their existence by paying them to watch TV, or protected industry union workers, or fat cat Dem donors! These are people who have to help PAY huge taxes for those privileged- what good are they to Obama and the Dems? They don’t even need affirmative action programs in order to help them pay taxes, and that doesn’t help the Dems a whit!

Now, if they had been reporting for algore on how NK had been fearlessly upholding their carbon emissions targets under Kyoto and how NK was saving the world from global warming for the purple snail darters and underprivileged horned green lizard, they would have had more clout with help in getting released. Good propaganda value in something like that for the upcoming carbon cap-and-tax political fight. However, some mundane story like human trafficking that just makes it more difficult for SNOBama making nice to the whole world- forget it!

SNOBama will make his phone call, and no matter what the result of that is, this story will be completely gone in three weeks.

People here are overreacting.

278 posted on 06/08/2009 9:28:06 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))

You said — Hey as representatives of the American Press they should be allowed to go anywhere, say anything and do everything, shouldn’t they?

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All I can think of is “should-a, would-a, could-a”... LOL...

279 posted on 06/08/2009 9:28:31 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)

To: doug from upland

boy I sure hope that ADMIRAL NIGAN as he is so admirably called isn't DISCOVERED to be a SPY by those nasty CHINESE who hate SPIES.... (just adding my concerns)

280 posted on 06/08/2009 9:29:04 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))

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