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Pair questioned over ricin find
BBC News ^ | Page last updated at 04:02 GMT, Saturday, 6 June 2009 05:02 UK | n/a

Posted on 06/06/2009 12:57:00 PM PDT by Cindy

Page last updated at 04:02 GMT, Saturday, 6 June 2009 05:02 UK

"Pair questioned over ricin find"

SNIPPET: "A father and son are being questioned by anti-terrorism officers following the discovery of the poison ricin at a house in County Durham.

The find is connected to a police inquiry into alleged extreme right-wing activity.

Ian Davison, 41, and his son, Nicky, 18, were arrested on Tuesday in raids at their homes in County Durham.

The ricin, said to be 6,000 times more toxic than cyanide, will be analysed at the Porton Down government laboratory.

Police have halted their search of Mr Davison's home in Myrtle Grove, Burnopfield, until tests on the substance, found in a sealed jam jar, have been completed."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abrin; castorbeans; iandavison; nickydavison; ricin; uk
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1 posted on 06/06/2009 12:57:02 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy

This is one substance that I wish the media wouldn’t talk about so much. It’s as if they were actually trying to ‘hint’ people into using it for terrorist purposes.


2 posted on 06/06/2009 1:05:13 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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This is one substance that I wish the media wouldn’t talk about so much.

Doesn't it take a whole mess of castor beans to extract enough to matter?

3 posted on 06/06/2009 1:46:12 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: Cindy
We do not believe that there is any risk to public health

Famous last words. I do question why they stopped the investigation when the ricine was found. One would think the find would cause them to beef up the investigation.

4 posted on 06/06/2009 1:48:30 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I wouldn’t know but there’s recipes all over the internet.


5 posted on 06/06/2009 1:51:24 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I’m not sure how many it takes, but the less said about how to make it the better.

The media could just as easily talk about ‘a natural substance’ when revealing arrests that involve it.

They don’t mention the race of perpetrators because of the negative (so called) consequences, then rattle off the name of this substance every chance they get, making sure to tell how effective it is, and where it comes from. (generally)


6 posted on 06/06/2009 1:54:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I’m not sure how many it takes, but the less said about how to make it the better.

Probably so. It's not as if I'm need-to-know on this matter, and I'm pretty stable. Some others... apparently less so.

7 posted on 06/06/2009 2:31:19 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: DoughtyOne
They don’t mention the race of perpetrators because of the negative (so called) consequences, then rattle off the name of this substance every chance they get, making sure to tell how effective it is, and where it comes from. (generally)

 

UK poison plot against Asians, blacks busted

7 Jun 2009, 0106 hrs IST

ANI

 


 

LONDON: A deadly terror plot by suspected white supremacists was busted when the police recovered dangerous ricin meant to poison ethnic minorities
in the UK.

It is feared the lethal nerve toxin was intended for use as part of a biological weapon against blacks and Asians, the Daily Express reports.

The fatal agent, for which there is no antidote, is 6,000 times more poisonous than cyanide. An amount the size of a grain of salt is enough to kill an adult. During an anti-terror raid at a terraced house in Burnopfield, the police found the ricin in a jam jar in a kitchen cupboard.

Durham's assistant chief constable Mike Barton said: "This shows that the terrorist threat in the UK is real. We believe the people involved to be white supremacist extremists and one of our lines of inquiry was that they were going to target people from ethnic ­minorities."

The house in Burnopfield, and another in nearby Annfield Plain, were raided by police on Tuesday.

According to the government labs in Edinburgh, the jam jar had ­contained the ricin for up to two years.

The jar will be taken to the Ministry of Defence's chemical biological warfare labs at Porton Down, Wilts, for further tests.

8 posted on 06/06/2009 3:05:06 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Nope. One bean can kill quite a number of people. I grow castor plants because they are so beautiful.


9 posted on 06/06/2009 5:42:02 PM PDT by Rannug
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To: DoughtyOne

“This is one substance that I wish the media wouldn’t talk about so much. It’s as if they were actually trying to ‘hint’ people into using it for terrorist purposes.”

Abrin is even more potent and grows wild all over the south and west in this country, and is much easier to process.

I knew you would hate to know this. Hatred of knowledge is a liberal trait.

Hank


10 posted on 06/06/2009 6:14:47 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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the police found the ricin in a jam jar in a kitchen cupboard.

What a stupid bunch- storing something like that in the freaking kitchen is nuts.

11 posted on 06/06/2009 6:41:34 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Hank Kerchief
"Abrin is even more potent and grows wild all over the south and west in this country, and is much easier to process."

I have never heard of abrin (which, of course, means little) but I did read somewhere that the three deadliest poisons were Plutonium, ricin, and botulism toxin.

12 posted on 06/06/2009 9:19:37 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Elections, like erections, often have similar consequences!)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Yeah, I think you’re right about the stability thing. If you feel the need to manufacture and use this stuff, you’re a good candidate for the loony bin.


13 posted on 06/06/2009 9:40:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

BTW, I didn’t mean ‘you’ specifically. I meant the general public.


14 posted on 06/06/2009 9:41:37 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Ahah, it was white supremacists. LOL

I guess it’s okay to mention the race within the first 48 hours then.


15 posted on 06/06/2009 9:44:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Heh heh heh!


16 posted on 06/06/2009 9:48:27 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: Hank Kerchief

When one of these things is used on your family, get back to me.


17 posted on 06/06/2009 9:49:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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To: DoughtyOne

It got me wondering... if this is such a powerful toxin, then how do they guarantee that castor oil doesn’t have any in it?


18 posted on 06/06/2009 9:49:54 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

;-)


19 posted on 06/06/2009 10:02:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Honestly I don’t know. There must be a process that precludes the effects being transferred via the process that is used to make castor oil.


20 posted on 06/06/2009 10:03:40 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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