Posted on 06/03/2009 6:50:55 AM PDT by MNDude
This is a link to the church of Tiller the Killer. I have to say that going through their web-site made me feel somewhat sick to the stomach.
I was expecting this to be a church that omits the name of Jesus Christ from their teachings, with a weird blend of New Age and Secularism.
Instead their mission statement tends to talk about being guided by the Holy Spirit and how we're a sinful people loved by God. They have links to their music and worship services and lots of smiling children pictures.
At a glance, the church doesn't seem to have too much that would scream false church.
Their media statements calls the death of Tiller a violent tragedy that "we deplore", while they allude to his baby killings as "our unresolved differences" that must be discussed peacefully.
I imagine during the holocaust there certainly must have been known German concentration camp murderers would kill thousands of Jewish children that attended their churches comfortably regularly. These camp workers would have had after church fellowship with other church attenders who would be thinking "I have a difference about your killing Jewish children", but it would go no further than this.
I'm curious on other's take on this church and their apparent inconsistancy with the Christian faith.
What a load of rubbish. This is exactly the excuse the united church uses to make homosexual priests acceptable in their church.
The languages and style of those languages used in the Bible (mostly Hebrew) and gospel (Greek except for one book) are far more precise and multi-dimensional than the common linear American english used today.
Anyone attending a church like that is being lead straight to hell, often by a "gay" actor pretending to be a minister who should know darn well that a perpetual unrepentant sinner cannot possibly hope to be granted the power to intercede on Gods behalf to anyone. He is an abomination to the Lord, and should be seeking forgiveness; repenting his ways and sinning no more.
Baptism is essential.
""I am the living bread which has come down from heaven. Anyone who eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is my flesh, for the life of the world." (Jn.6:48-51).
Communion is the peace offering that God has made with the world ( by treaty in the blood of the cross) giving it (for a limited time) amnesty from annihilation so that all people on earth who choose to do so are able to repent of their sins and return to God through the path of Christ.
The Churchwide Assembly (the highest legislative body) of the ELCA never overtly approved the abortion-on-demand coverage of the health insurance plan. In fact, numerous bodies have attempted to bring the health plan into compliance with the Social Teaching Statement on Abortion, which would limit the acceptable use to saving the life of the mother, conception from rape or incest, and severe fetal deformation.
The Board of Pensions, which administers the health plan, has steadfastly refused to bring the coverage into compliance with the Statement on the basis that this would violate patient-doctor confideniality and that we should simply trust women to make the right decision.
Whatever happened to the Lutheran doctrine of SIN? We teach that we are basically incapable of "making the right decision".
And specifically: CLR Condemns the Killing of Dr. George Tiller
My “benchmark” liberal “Christian” that I talked to doesn’t put much weight on the doctrine of sin.
Of course, libs can’t do that, because “man is basically good” is the most basic assumption of liberalism.
From what I gather, it’s only a “sin” when it offends THEM, and offending God seems to have little weight.
Isn't it stunning that some churches think women have a right to abort babies just because they are handicapped? The world has gone mad.
Most of the southeastern synod of the ELCA is moderate to conservative. The exception being a couple of congregations in Atlanta.
We left our local ELCA church when the pastor asked my opinion on letting the wife (and business partner) of the owners of the local strip joint become a member of the board of trustees (I was the chairman of the BOT).
My reply was that I thought it was a very bad idea and that it sent the wrong message to the public. I was, by the way 28 years old at the time. Anyway, I told the pastor that we were considering leaving and that if he pushed this appointment then it would probably result in another opening on the BOT. I knew the pastor from my high school days, we were sort of friends and I handled this is as diplomatic a way as I could.
We left the Lutheran church, shopped around for a few months and finally settled on the Baptist church and the rest is as they say, history. My old pastor, BYW is no longer in the ministry and the church has a female pastor now and fewer members from when we were there.
Tom
says it all...
Maybe even more conservative, depending on the congregation. We are members of an AFLC church that is so, and I’m a former ELCA member.
They consider it a sin to shoot a man in their church but slicing up cute babies is a gray area up for discussion. I wonder how they make these determinations.
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