Posted on 06/01/2009 6:00:53 AM PDT by tcg
It is? If you are found innocent of murder, does that make the victim guilty?
Are you saying that the hand of God could NOT be at work here? Through out the Bible, didn't God strike down the wicked in various manners?
The real tragedy in this all is that the state (the entity, not the local and federal institutions) allowed this to happen, through not enforcing the laws, or upholding anything remotely close morality. The killer is responsible for his actions; the state is culpable in creating the environment.
Murder is defined as killing the innocent.Nope. Unlawful killing with malice aforethought. Very different.
Even if you hate the guy, he was operating within the law.
Change the law and throw him in the slammer fine; however, the minute you start allowing extra judicial killings is the minute the Obamaites break down your down and shoot you for being impolitic.
You really don't want to go there.
Strange... I don’t follow your “logic”...
Don’t bother.
Tiller wasn’t innocent. I feel no sadness at his untimely (too late) passing.
He was?
He was operating under the protection of a corrupt political, judicial, and law enforcement system, but not "within the law".
Are you saying that the hand of God could NOT be at work here? Through out the Bible, didn't God strike down the wicked in various manners?When did we become liberals? All this whining about environment and "creating environments" sounds like liberal whinging about how poor gang bangers aren't responsible for what they did because of "their environment".The real tragedy in this all is that the state (the entity, not the local and federal institutions) allowed this to happen, through not enforcing the laws, or upholding anything remotely close morality. The killer is responsible for his actions; the state is culpable in creating the environment.
Do you really want to follow your logic to its conclusion?
See — that I don’t know about. I condemn the murder of Tiller, but I don’t know that this has set back the pro-life cause. (Obviously, it is a bad thing when the taking of a human life undermines the pro-life cause.) That said, certainly the murderer’s defense will bring up Tiller’s actions. People who don’t know who Tiller was, from the reactions I’ve seen, are under the impression he was just a run-of-the-(abortion)mill abortionist. When testimony comes out, they will become aware of his heinous acts were. I think most Americans will be astonished and outraged to learn that these late-term butcherings occur.
Perhaps it is not a good thing for the state to thwart all avenues of legitimate justice.
No one is asking you to feel "sadness." This writer is asking you to consider that the shooting was wrong.
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Well, that's just not so. Murder is the taking of any life not in self-defense (justifiable homicide) and with malice afore thought.
Agreed, but I’m not going to allow them to blame me for it. I will not be put on the defensive, that is exactly what they want. They will milk the situation as much as possible.
He was?That's a slippery slope. Who defines this law? There's a reason that America was meant to be a country of "laws not men".He was operating under the protection of a corrupt political, judicial, and law enforcement system, but not "within the law".
The minute you allow people to go freely off the reservation is the minute you start heading towards fascism.
Exactly. I don’t defend or justify vigilantism. But let’s be clear. This particular abortionist was not operating within the law. The law clearly prohibits late term abortions, except to save the life of the mother. Tiller clearly skirted that law with the help of Gov. Sebelius, who refused to demand that he provide records to account for the reasons for his late term abortions.
The shot heard 'round the world was fired by a minuteman asgainst his own BATF (figuratively speaking, of cours) as they came up his driveway to take his guns .... and didn't have a warrant.
What's a man to do?
What I find funny is ostensible moral absolutists using moral relativism to make a point. (I havent been reading these threads much, though).Ding ding ding.
I don’t believe you have followed the Tiller case very closely, or you’d see this was not a “slippery slope”.
The cases against Tiller were clear, the evidence was clear,
the prosecutors were corrupt.
Certainly, the laws do not apply to the left.
It’s a pathetic example to set for our country.
Eventually someone thinks they can or should take the law into their own hands.
Very dangerous.
Simply taking a moral high ground will not defeat the enemy.
In this modern culture war, the Left has literally drawn First Blood.
If the left were smarter,
they’d allow at least a semblance of a method of redress,
but no, they can’t even allow dissent, and dissenters must be destroyed in order to satisfy the left’s desire for total dominance of the human will.
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