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Big Brother asks: 'Do you have a flush toilet?'
World Net Daily ^ | 5/28/09 | Chelsea Schilling

Posted on 05/28/2009 9:32:29 PM PDT by ReformationFan

The federal government is forcing 3 million Americans to disclose sensitive, personal information about finances, health and lifestyle in a 14-page survey – including questions about availability of household flush toilets and difficulty with undressing and bathing.

The 2009 American Community Survey, an annual supplement to the decennial Census, asks about residents' personal relationships and whether a home has hot and cold running water, a flush toilet, bathing facilities, appliances and phone services. It also asks how many rooms are in a home and what vehicles are used at each household.

The new questionnaire asks respondents what they pay for electricity, gas, water and sewer every month and whether residents receive food stamps.

Question 16 asks, "About how much do you think this house and lot, apartment, or mobile home would sell for if it were for sale?"

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; biggovernment; census; chelseaschilling; endofliberty; flushtoilet; governmentintrusion; liberty; schilling; tyranny
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To: ironwill
So what do you do if you get one? ‘Accidentally’ throw it away with the other junk mail? If questioned why you haven’t turned it in, respond with “I never got one,” or something to that effect? The answers to these questions are none of their business!

If you don't want to answer those kind of questions, just return the blank form. The only information the government can demand is the number of people in a household, their age and sex. Beyond that, you don't have to supply any other information if you do not want to.

81 posted on 05/29/2009 4:23:33 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: Cheap_Hessian
“About how much do you think this house and lot, apartment, or mobile home would sell for if it were for sale?”

Before or after the fire when they are on their way to seize it?

82 posted on 05/29/2009 4:30:00 AM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a 5 year old son with Down Syndrome. He's a wonderful gift.)
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To: Dusty Road

Lived in Cypress N.W. Houston for a year once.
Wife and I would do anything to get away from Houston so we’d get in our truck and drive.
Once near Johnson city we went down a dirt road for 5 hours and never ever saw another person or building.
Loved it.


83 posted on 05/29/2009 4:37:17 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Joe Boucher
This is what you see coming into my north gate. Photobucket Photobucket Photobucket This is what you don't want to see! Photobucket Should you get past the snakes, coyotes, javalina's and make it to the house, them you have to deal with Lilith, and she can get crankey. Photobucket Photobucket
84 posted on 05/29/2009 4:54:04 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: ReformationFan

flush twice, it’s... low flow.


85 posted on 05/29/2009 4:55:00 AM PDT by Puddleglum (Obama's just another word for nothin' left to lose)
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To: Dusty Road

Nice pussy there Dusty.
We have them here where I live and they can get pretty testy. They do a good job keeping the wabbit population down.
A few Florida Panthers too, and the coyote here are smart enough to not eat federalies, poison.
Beautiful place ya have. Don’t ya miss the bright lites and muggers of the city?


86 posted on 05/29/2009 5:08:07 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: GOPrincess
I received one a couple years ago, along with two reminders, and trashed them all. Never heard a word in follow-up."

I've had a census guy show up at my door last year and this year, same guy, asking me what I did with mine. The first time I told him I threw it away and he asked to come in and go over the questions right now. I refused.

He asked if there was anything he could say to change my mind and I said no.

After that I got a letter from his manager who was explaining that I was doing my duty by answering those questions, and that he was sure I'd answer them now. So I looked him up and he's got a title about a mile long. He's a divison head or some other b.s. On the google search I found his email and replied to him that I would answer his questions when he came to my door and personally kissed my @$$. (Exact wording....The guy at the door ticked me off and then this schmuck's smug letter ticked me off even more).

So now just a few weeks ago, same guy shows up and starts asking me again about the survey questions. I told him I never got it this time (which was true). So he said he had one I could fill out. I said I'm not answering those questions. He said I can answer beside the ones I don't want to that I don't wish to answer. I said I don't want to answer any of them. So he complimented me on what a beautiful german shepard I had and left. She was barking and I was holding her back the whole time :)

Good times.

87 posted on 05/29/2009 5:12:49 AM PDT by libs_kma (F.U.B.O.)
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To: maid of orleans

I guess we have to learn the Clinton way of telling the “truth”...for instance if I am renting I technically do not have a flush toilet. *Depends on what the definition of “have” is. Meet our new friends the asterisk and small print. Even as a home owner I do not “have” until I have the mortgage paid off. The lender is the one who has all these things. And, when you get down to it, do we own property ever since we must pay taxes on it or it will be taken away? So all answers can be “no”.


88 posted on 05/29/2009 5:20:17 AM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: Twink

Uh Oh I insulted wnd once and was ragged on for days - watch out. .->


89 posted on 05/29/2009 6:03:56 AM PDT by svcw (The prerequisite for receiving the grace of God ... is knowing you need it.)
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To: Politicalmom

They came to my neighbors who hadn’t answered his form — he was livid at their threats and told them where to go after filling out his form.

My form had so many holes and crossed out answers that I am sure they are not happy but it is filled out although not completely. One of the answers I checked all the blocks and went back and made a big X. The only thing I didn’t mess with was the first part of the census.

I made it into a game. Wish I had made a copy of the x’s and arrows I drew.


90 posted on 05/29/2009 8:37:10 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin for OK Governor in 2010! Mark Rubio for FL US Senator in 2010!)
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To: Politicalmom

I got the long form in 2000. Just gave the number of individuals.

Then wrote long scathing letter to my Senator saying I would be glad to tell them how much my house if worth if they re-instated the property qualification for voting.

That was the end of that.


91 posted on 05/29/2009 8:46:48 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Habibi

“If I get one I will never ever send it back in.”

If you do not send it back in, they will send someone to your front door to get the information from you (really!). What will you do then?

Just askin’.


Simply. Tell then they’re on private property, they’re trespassing and get my shotgun.


92 posted on 05/29/2009 9:00:57 AM PDT by Bookie1066 (It's not going to be Atlas Shrugged but Atlas Shot Back.)
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To: Salamander

Thank you for sending me that website. It’s clear that most folks are spooked about being GPS’d. I am not one of them as I already have a street number at the front of my driveway. I suspect they can read a street address whether they have a GPS or not.

I find it interesting that there’s a $100 fine for refusing to answer, and “way more” for lying. As someone said previously, “let them try to collect”. In the past, they have not prosecuted. I suspect it would be extremely counterproductive for the Census if they did. After all, the Census relies on the cooperation of the population. If the people see it as a method of coercion and punishment it’ll cause the Census way more problems than it’s worth.


93 posted on 05/29/2009 10:15:59 AM PDT by Habibi ("We gladly feast on those who would subdue us". Not just pretty words........)
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To: ReformationFan; All
We received the long form during the last census. We did not return it. I can't remember all the details but there was no repercussion.
 
That said, this much I do remember. During the exchange of info that took place, I came to the realization that it is against the law to not return these forms answered truthfully. I was like most, who think, the Constitution only mandated the census being used to determine Representatives.
 
That was the original intent but our elected officials could not let a good thing go to waste. They passed a law during the Clinton administration under the guise of helping the poor. We need to give them all this information to help them know where they need to send government help. The form states which law grants them permission to ask the question. You cannot legally refuse.
 
The 2000 census was the first time the extra questions were asked. They were only sent to a small percentage of the people and Bush was in office. I know of no one who was prosecuted for not complying. It will be interesting to see how aggressively Obummer will be wanting the info. It could be a whole different scenario with people being arrested now that it has been instituted and no one tested the Constitutionality of it. Precedent has been made.
 
We will see what we shall see. BVB

94 posted on 05/29/2009 10:37:06 AM PDT by Bobsvainbabblings
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To: Habibi
I am simply "not going to be home" when they come.

I have surveillance cameras out front and I know everyone who has a legitimate reason to come back this rural dirt lane.

With the flick of a remote button, I can see who's out there on my TV...and record it.

There is a VERY prominent "NO Trespassing" sign exactly like this on the front of my house that NO ONE can miss.

If they climb over my locked gate, luck better be on their side because I'm going to assume that anybody who is "breaking and entering" onto a secured business property is up to no good.

[note to any ACORN lurkers....push me]

95 posted on 05/29/2009 10:47:58 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: Bobsvainbabblings

My family is either “Native American” or “Mixed Race”,

I haven’t decided which to tell them. I wonder which would be the most useless for their demographic info...


96 posted on 05/29/2009 10:50:12 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: Salamander

I will call before I drop by. ;-)


97 posted on 05/29/2009 10:58:19 AM PDT by Habibi ("We gladly feast on those who would subdue us". Not just pretty words........)
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To: jy8z
I'm gonna tell 'em I have 13 illegal immigrants living with me. And then ask them if they count.

LOL Demand that they count. Threaten a discrimination lawsuit. Ask for a bail out. Claim diplomatic immunity and declare your property a foreign embassy and warn them that U.S. authorities can't trespass. Oh, and tell them one of your aliens is an Aztec shaman which gives you special religious protections and status as an international archaeological site by UN treaty.

Make it clear than any further contact by the U.S. government, that isn't accompanied by large quantities of unmarked bills, will be treated as a major insult by several third world countries.

98 posted on 05/29/2009 11:31:48 AM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: Habibi

Submit a photo ID and you won’t have to .....;D


99 posted on 05/29/2009 11:37:07 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: ironwill

Amen! Just throw it away. Unless it is sent in a way that you have to sign for it, they have no proof that you ever received it.


100 posted on 05/29/2009 5:09:55 PM PDT by upcountry miss
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