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Casey: Army would have to ‘shift gears’ for N. Korea battle
Stars and Stripes ^ | May 30, 2009 | Jeff Schogol

Posted on 05/28/2009 5:34:54 PM PDT by xzins

WASHIGTON – It would take the Army time to "shift gears" if it needed to fight against North Korea, Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey said Thursday.

Right now, the Army is focused on the counterinsurgency efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan, but North Korea’s recent saber rattling has raised the prospect that the Army might be called upon to fight a conventional war.

"I have said publicly for some time that if we had to shift gears, it would probably take us about 90 days or so to shift our gears and to train the folks up that were preparing to go to Iraq and Afghanistan to go someplace else," Casey said after a speech at a Washington think tank.

That doesn’t mean that it would take at least 90 days to send reinforcements to U.S. troops in South Korea, Casey said.

"We would move forces as rapidly as we could get them prepared," he said.

Casey declined to say how fast the Army could mobilize to meet a threat from North Korea, but he stressed the Army is "combat seasoned" and can move quickly.

"The mechanical skills of artillery gunnery and tank gunnery come back very, very quickly," he said. "The harder part is the integration — that really brigade level and above of massing fires and effects in a very constricted period of time as opposed to what you do in a counterinsurgency over a much longer extended period of time."

Looking to the future, Casey said he expects conflicts this century to look a lot like the U.S.-led wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as the Israeli war with Hezbollah in 2006.

Regarding the latter, Casey noted that the key lesson the Israelis learned was that they were too focused on irregular warfare.

"They were working so much in the West Bank and conducting counterinsurgency-like operations that they lost their combined arms skills, the ability to integrate fires in air and tanks and artillery," he said.

The U.S. Army needs to be prepared for the "full spectrum" operations ranging from offensive, defensive and stability operations, he said.

Casey expressed confidence that the U.S. Army can fight and win a conventional war against North Korea given its experience in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"I’m not afraid of putting this force in the field against anybody," he said.


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KEYWORDS: army; bhoasia; georgecasey; korea; northkorea; saberrattling; testingobama; usarmy
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Does anyone know anything about the extensive artillery line the Norks have pointing south? Seem to recall there are many tens of thousands...


21 posted on 05/28/2009 5:51:52 PM PDT by dogcaller
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To: xzins
South Korea has substantial capability this time, unlike before.

The North has little to no capability to fight a long war and China is very, very unlikely to send troops this time.

The North could shell Seoul, but a biological attack would invite a nuclear response.....

Crap, I forgot who POTUS is. Yea, the we're screwed.

22 posted on 05/28/2009 5:51:53 PM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism enslaves you & kills your soul.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Their most numerous is tank is the T-55, followed by the T-62. Their most common APC is the BTR-60.

Just about obsolete by today's standards.

23 posted on 05/28/2009 5:53:22 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
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To: xzins

nah...just nuke um to hell

call it good


24 posted on 05/28/2009 5:53:41 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: xzins

Bull crap. Artillery and tank gunnery skills are very perishable and unfortunately, may have to be re-aquired via blood.


25 posted on 05/28/2009 5:54:15 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Sarah Palin...Unleashing the Fury of the Castrated Left!")
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To: GSP.FAN

Yep!


26 posted on 05/28/2009 5:54:19 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Lurker

I think that’s the problem. They would overrun the South before we could respond.


27 posted on 05/28/2009 5:55:49 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: DoughtyOne
North Korea would probably have some help from other nations.

Who? Neither China or Russia would commit troops to defend North Korea.

28 posted on 05/28/2009 5:55:52 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: dogcaller
Does anyone know anything about the extensive artillery line the Norks have pointing south? Seem to recall there are many tens of thousands...

They certainly have enough artillery to kill thousands of civilians...tens of thousands, if they use chemical weapons. They'd still lose the war to the South Koreans.

29 posted on 05/28/2009 5:56:55 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
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To: DoughtyOne

The North Koreans have old Soviet designed tanks. There is a corridor of flat ground that runs from the DMZ to Seoul, 70% of the Korean peninsula is mountainous. The Commies would send their armor down this corridor but the US and South Koreans know this so it would be a huge kill box from both ground and air attack although the question is would that be enough to stop the Commies from taking Seoul since its only 30 miles from the DMZ.


30 posted on 05/28/2009 5:57:03 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: LeoWindhorse

NK should have been nuked into submission in 51’
the infant PRC too
We didn’t take the shot and have been paying for it ever since.
If they think they can take on the world now , I say nuke them in to total unconditional surrender , or extinction , and that will end the matter forever. Let them take the first shot .
Then the world can’t blame us . Sorry about that Seoul .


31 posted on 05/28/2009 5:57:06 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Lurker

Seoul is untenable, as it is bracketed by thousands of Nork artillery pieces with only one target: Seoul. Seoul would be blasted relentlessly.


32 posted on 05/28/2009 5:58:22 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: farlander

They have the fifth-largest standing army in the world, and their backed by the Chinese who have the largest standing army in the world. If they invade the south, they’ll take massive casualties...but keep on coming. The regime doesn’t care how many of it’s men are chewed up by mines.


33 posted on 05/28/2009 5:58:25 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

“What makes Casey think 2009 will be a repeat of 1951-1953? It might look more like August 1945.”

THANK YOU

Why do we have all these nuclear subs & B-2 bombers if we aren’t gonna use ‘em!!!


34 posted on 05/28/2009 5:58:52 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: xzins
It would take the Army time to "shift gears" if it needed to fight against North Korea, Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey said Thursday.

Army?

Who needs it we have Obama to talk them to death.

35 posted on 05/28/2009 5:58:56 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: xzins

Why have nukes if aren’t gonna use them?


36 posted on 05/28/2009 5:59:36 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: DoughtyOne
"What’s their mechanized look like? Could they storm in with tanks or military vehicles?

They have an ample supply of Soviet-era tracked vehicles including Type 82 tanks and assorted APCs. If they're in a functional state of repair is another question altogether. I'm not sure if we have a solid handle on what works and what doesn't.

But even if it all worked, I'm not sure they would abandon their defensive positions to engage in an offensive campaign. Let's face it, they're all about survival. They probably know that even if they take ground, they don't have the air superiority to keep it.

This has been war-gamed seven ways to Sunday, but my guess is they'd hit a confined piece of Seoul quickly with substantial artillery and rockets as a deterrent show of force. What happens after that, would really be up to the South Koreans. I'm guessing that they would cave after sustaining serious casualties. They have well-trained defensive forces, but I don't believe the South Korean people have the stomach for war anymore.

I really don't think it would escalate and we'd just be back to where we were before, only with 10-50K dead South Koreans to bury. It's just a bad situation with no good alternatives.

37 posted on 05/28/2009 5:59:56 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: GL of Sector 2814

We have some amazing weapons these days. There’s one that I’ve seen, that can identify a number of targets on it’s own and take them out. They are fired in one missile, they disburse, and hit something like 20 to 40 targets.

Fire off a few thousand of those, and the North will look like Moe after Larry and Curly got through with him.

I’m sure the military is ready for this. It would be an interesting situation to monitor.

I don’t take lightly the danger to our men though.


38 posted on 05/28/2009 6:00:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama is mentally a child of ten. Just remember that when he makes statements and issues policy.)
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To: xzins

Somebody needs to tell Uncle Kim that Cold War fighting is not allowed.


39 posted on 05/28/2009 6:01:08 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Putin warned Obama not to pursue Marxism. Obama has ignored him.)
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To: randog
Are the SK’s gonna join the fight or is this one all ours?

From what I'm reading, the SK's, who's children have been indoctrinated as badly as dumb American kids with commie BS, will have an experience similar to being tossed in a blender set to frappe. After NK blow's it's load in the first 10 minutes of combat, conditions will gradually improve from there.

However, a valuable lesson will have been learned by all...

Seriously, I hope it doesn't come down to that.

Prayers that it doesn't.

40 posted on 05/28/2009 6:01:23 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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