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Corpus Christi Caller-Times ^ | May 24, 2009 | Denise Malan

Posted on 05/26/2009 9:27:18 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch

Family worries about neighbors’ target shooting

LIVE OAK(County) — Eight-year-old Mikayla Molohon likes playing on her swing set in the breezy Lake Meadows Subdivision near the banks of the Nueces River.

Until the shooting starts.

Then her grandparents, Sparkey and Jan Osborn, call “Mika” inside to watch television or play with her toys. The Osborns’ two Doberman pinschers become anxious, and Sparkey Osborn’s occasional migraines pound worse with the shooting.

Mika and her sister, Colleen, 13, aren’t allowed in the front yard at all because the Osborns are never sure when the guns might go off.

Two of their neighbors, the Herradas across the street and the Valentines down the road, have dirt berms on their property and regularly practice shooting their guns, as often as once a week during competition training, Jan Osborn said. The Osborns worry that a ricochet or bad shot could hit their home.

“I usually stay back here by myself and I don’t get into my neighbor’s business,” Sparkey Osborn said recently on his back porch overlooking the river. “But I don’t want to put my family in danger.”

After several years of worrying, and spurred by the story of a 7-year-old Hays County boy who died from a stray bullet, the Osborns have sued both neighbors and are asking for stricter gun laws in Live Oak County to bar shooting in residential areas.

Herman Herrada and John Valentine say in court filings they have never missed their berms and the dirt piles are free from any material that could cause a ricochet. They say their lines of fire extend over open fields — away from the Osborn residence — and that the suit amounts to harassment.

The Osborns are asking for a permanent injunction to stop both men from firing on their property. The argument hinges on the subdivision’s deed restrictions, which bar nuisance activities.

The Osborns lost a request for a temporary injunction in November and a hearing is set for June 5 on the request for permanent injunction. Neighbors have lined up on each side of the dispute, with several expected to testify that Valentine and Herrada are safe shooters, and another handful filing statements with the court that shooting bothers them but they wish to remain anonymous to keep a harmonious relationship.

Both the Osborns say they are not against guns but what they call irresponsible gun use. Jan Osborn is a member of the National Rifle Association, and Sparkey Osborn has used a gun to defend his home. This is not a constitutional issue to them.

“What you can do when you have no neighbors is different from what you can do when you live in a community,” Jan Osborn said.

The beginning

The Osborns moved from San Antonio to Port Aransas in 1988 to escape another kind of threat. Sparkey Osborn had shot an intruder in their home, and the reputed gang member survived and vowed revenge. Osborn said he lived in fear of a drive-by, and the incident left him with post-traumatic stress disorder.

Then in late 2002 the couple moved from Port Aransas to Live Oak County to be nearer their daughter and grandchildren. Herrada and Valentine already lived in the subdivision and had constructed their shooting berms in 1988 and 1996, respectively, according to the suit.

“When we first moved there, we didn’t realize the dirt pile across the street from us was a shooting berm,” Jan Osborn said. “We just thought it was a pile of dirt to use for filling in holes.”

Valentine and Herrada practice shooting at the berms at competition distances of 7, 15 and 25 yards. Valentine is a certified instructor in the use of explosives and firearms at Del Mar College, Texas A&M University-Corpus Christi and the Corpus Christi Police Academy. Herrada is a retired Department of Corrections officer who served 23 years in the Air Force.

Sparkey Osborn, a former construction worker who suffers from chronic back pain and migraine headaches, likes to relax on his back patio in one of the few comfortable chairs he can find. But the shooting makes him anxious and forces him inside.

“It’s turned into worse than waiting for a drive-by,” Osborn said, turning to point to his front window. “The ricochet could come right in the window there where my grandchildren watch TV.”

The Osborns say they were determined to be good neighbors. They put up with the shooting for years. Then a bullet from a third neighbor, who was shooting at a tree stump, ended up in the trailer next door to the Osborns, nearly in the line of fire of their grandchildren’s swing set.

Though that neighbor agreed to stop shooting and has since moved, the stray bullet heightened the Osborns’ anxiety.

So when the couple heard in April 2007 that a 7-year-old boy from Hays County was killed by a stray bullet while playing on his trampoline, they had an epiphany.

“I thought, ‘It’s time for this to stop,’ ” Sparkey Osborn said.

The law

The Osborns called the Live Oak County Sheriff’s Office to see what could be done about the shooting. Though at least two deputies have come out, the couple are frustrated that no citations have been given.

Sheriff Larry Busby is expected to testify about Valentine’s safety record, according to court filings.

Busby said Thursday he inspected both berms in Lake Meadows Subdivision. He knows Valentine from competition shooting but has not used the berm, Busby said.

“It seems to be safe to me,” Busby said. “I wouldn’t have any problem shooting on it. I don’t worry about it being a risk to anyone.”

The Osborns have written U.S. Rep. Ruben Hinojosa and Sen. John Cornyn to ask for the Texas Rangers to step in and investigate. A spokesman for Hinojosa said staff are looking into the request but aren’t ready to comment, and Cornyn’s office had not received the letter as of last week.

Busby said he would have no problem with an outside investigation.

“If there would have been any kind of risk, we’d certainly have done something about it,” he said. “If he wants to call an outside agency to come in and check it, they can call. I wouldn’t be surprised if they tell them they have more important things to do.”

State law allows counties to regulate shooting on lots that are 10 acres or smaller and located in a subdivision in unincorporated areas of the county. Lots in Lake Meadows are around 1 acre or less.

After the boy was shot on his trampoline in Hays County, that commissioners court considered a law that would ban shooting on lots less than two acres. It failed by a 3-2 vote, but nearby Bastrop County passed a similar proposal for lots smaller than 5 acres.

The man who shot the boy told investigators he was target shooting when he hit the boy in a yard about a third of a mile away, according to the “Austin American Statesman.” He pleaded guilty Wednesday to manslaughter and was sentenced to eight years in prison.

Live Oak County Commissioner Jim Bassett said Thursday the Osborns had discussed a possible law with him, though the issue hasn’t been formally presented to the court. He declined to comment further because of the lawsuit.

The case

Herrada answered his door for a reporter but declined to comment. Valentine refused to come to the door and hung up on a reporter. Both men’s attorney, Michael Sartori of George West, said he did not want to comment beyond court filings.

In their court filings, Herrada and Valentine say they shoot in the direction of open fields and that their berms are large enough for recreational shooting. Their filings say Valentine’s berm is 24 feet wide, 18 feet thick and 7½ feet high and Herrada’s berm is 21 feet wide, 9 feet thick and 7 feet high. The Osborns dispute those numbers.

Valentine said he shoots a 1911 .45 automatic and a Smith & Wesson 357/38 model 66. Herrada said he has shot three pistols and a Remington 12-gauge shotgun.

The Osborns’ suit claims Valentine also occasionally fires a cannon, an assertion he denies in court papers.

The suit claims Valentine and Herrada cause a nuisance and violate the subdivision’s deed restrictions, which state “no noxious or offensive activity” or anything “which may be or may become an annoyance or nuisance to the neighborhood” are allowed in the subdivision. The covenant was signed in 1979.

At least five neighbors have signed statements saying they also want the shooting to stop, though many requested their names not be used. David and Marla Scott, who own 90 acres surrounding the subdivision, plan to testify at the injunction hearing.

David Scott said their home is within 90 degrees of each shooting berm, and within 100 yards of Valentine’s berm. He also said his olive orchards are directly downrange from the berm.

“If I’m working, trying to get trees pruned and stuff, and he starts popping off rounds, I’m not stupid,” Scott said. “I’m not going to be directly downrange.”

He also said friends and family always go inside or leave when they hear shooting start, and he makes his grandchildren come inside. Scott, who moved near the subdivision in 2002, said he has called the sheriff’s office twice and visited with the district attorney and a private attorney, only to be told there’s nothing he could do.

“Even though what they’re doing may not be against the law, it’s not responsible for your neighbors,” Scott said.

The Osborns’ son Christopher Osborn, a firefighter for a contractor in Iraq, also signed a statement saying that the shooting worries him because his 12-year-old daughter visits his parents.

“I spend less than 30 days a year out of a war zone and need the peace and quiet of my home to relax and recuperate before having to return to my job in Iraq,” Christopher Osborn wrote.

On the Herrada and Valentine side, two neighbors are expected to testify whether they feel the noise levels are a nuisance. Their attorney argues the claims are barred by a limitations clause, and that the subdivision deed restrictions allow recreational shooting.

Even if the Osborns win a permanent injunction at the June 5 hearing, Jan Osborn said the couple still want a new law.

“I really feel we’ve been let down by the sheriff’s office,” she said. “I feel we’ve been let down by the county, and I feel we’ve been let down by the state.”


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“When we first moved there, we didn’t realize the dirt pile across the street from us was a shooting berm,”
1 posted on 05/26/2009 9:27:19 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch

There should be gun ranges they can go to, our kids are in a 4H shooting program and we went to a farm for the actual shooting, but behind the birm which was only 10th tall was a housing addition, I was shocked they were allowing novices do training shooting with only that protecting those behind the wall, an accident waiting to happen.


2 posted on 05/26/2009 9:32:50 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

10 foot tall wall


3 posted on 05/26/2009 9:33:16 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: SwinneySwitch
In their court filings, Herrada and Valentine say they shoot in the direction of open fields and that their berms are large enough for recreational shooting.

These two will lose this, you have no legal right to fire a bullet onto your neighbors land.

4 posted on 05/26/2009 9:33:25 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: SwinneySwitch
Then in late 2002 the couple moved from Port Aransas to Live Oak County to be nearer their daughter and grandchildren. Herrada and Valentine already lived in the subdivision and had constructed their shooting berms in 1988 and 1996, respectively, according to the suit.

...And there, my friends is the money quote. Osbourne is a prime USDA-choice ***hole.

5 posted on 05/26/2009 9:35:03 AM PDT by jboot (Let Christ be true and every man a liar.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Looks like this will be stopped because of the deed restrictions.

Too bad they can’t shoot on their own property.


6 posted on 05/26/2009 9:36:54 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: SwinneySwitch

I wonder what these pieces of liberal human excrement do when a thunderstorm comes up? Do they try to get a law passed so that lightning does not strike in their yard?

Their neighbors are not shooting within a city limits, they are in the COUNTRY for crying out loud!

Just some more whiners wanting gun control, nothing more.


7 posted on 05/26/2009 9:38:09 AM PDT by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
This is just city folks moving to the country because they can't take city life any longer. Then the first thing they do is try to change everything to make it just like it was in the city they moved from. This is BS!!!!!
I shoot on my property all the time. That's why I moved out here. The major selling point was that no houses will ever be built downrange. I so have neighbors across the street, they use my range when they want. I also have a new neighbor down the street who has reported me many times. It all worked out well. The neighbor is still pissed but the cops stop by to shoot now and then.
If these people do not like the country environment then they need to move back to the city and leave us country folks in peace.
This is anti gun paranoia. This is anti gun propaganda. This is total BS!!!!
8 posted on 05/26/2009 9:41:50 AM PDT by oldenuff2no (I'm a VET and damn proud of it!!! I did not fight for a socialist America!!!!!!!)
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To: jboot

Yep. Osborne is trying to prevent the other homeowners from enjoying their property, even though they built berms for safety. It’s the same as the fools who buy in a subdivision in the landing pattern of an airport and complain about the noise.


9 posted on 05/26/2009 9:46:41 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Both the Osborns say they are not against guns but what they call irresponsible gun use.

Okay, who gets to define 'Irresponsible' gun use?

This is not a constitutional issue to them.

Kind of like when someone says “it's not about the money, it's ABOUT the money”

Like it or not, this can be construed as an 2nd amendment issue

10 posted on 05/26/2009 9:47:00 AM PDT by HammerT (Buy them so they CAN'T BAN them!!!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

regularly practice shooting their guns, as often as once a week during competition training,

Once a week? These people are carrying on like this over something that may happen as often as once a week? If you miss this detail in the article it makes it sound like it’s a 24/7 thing when it’s not.


11 posted on 05/26/2009 9:47:04 AM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: Scythian

10 foot tall wall.

A stray shot with a high enough trajectory could sail over this wall and into the neighbor's house or yard. It's possible. Neighbors should not be placed at any risk from the shooting, however slight.

12 posted on 05/26/2009 9:47:05 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Worse than we could have imagined.)
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To: org.whodat

“In the direction of open fields,..”

Not onto.


13 posted on 05/26/2009 9:47:42 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (0bommaNation - beyond your expectations.)
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To: DH

Do they try to get a law passed so that lightning does not strike in their yard?

Lightning is a natural phenomenon, target shooting in one's yard is not.

14 posted on 05/26/2009 9:50:13 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Worse than we could have imagined.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
I've heard that argument before, a couple of duds down the road were using their neighbors fence post as a target. All that argument got them was a permanent $10,000.00 restraining order.
15 posted on 05/26/2009 9:50:48 AM PDT by org.whodat
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Ping!)))

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16 posted on 05/26/2009 9:51:01 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (0bommaNation - beyond your expectations.)
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To: HammerT
I don't have all the facts on this particular case (neither does anybody else I've seen posting here). So I'll answer this one general question:

Okay, who gets to define 'Irresponsible' gun use?

(Part of) The answer is simple and should be obvious: When your bullets are landing on my property, your gun use is irresponsible.

17 posted on 05/26/2009 9:51:07 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: org.whodat

They aren’t. They are firing into a berm on their own land.


18 posted on 05/26/2009 9:52:25 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: Dead Corpse

You need to reread their statements!!!


19 posted on 05/26/2009 9:54:02 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: luvbach1

Maybe they should pass an ordinance banning bath tubs, electricity, and leaving your home without a 2’ thick wrap of bubblewrap. After all, who knows what “could” happen...


20 posted on 05/26/2009 9:54:38 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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