Is 'String' the next big thing?: Theories about cosmic evolution dangle by a thread

Creation Magazine ^ | Gary Bates

[GodGunsGuts]

Is 'String' the next big thing?: Theories about cosmic evolution dangle by a thread

by Gary Bates

Most people have heard of the expression ‘the big bang’. Its usage is so prevalent among mainstream scientists and the media that it has become the accepted ‘fact’ for how the universe began. However, there are an increasing number of secular scientists who are sceptical of this theory of cosmic evolution, and much of their scepticism has been caused by increasing discoveries that fly in the face of big bang theory. In May 2004 ‘An Open Letter to the Scientific Community’ signed by dozens of secular scientists was advertised in the renowned New Scientist. At the time of writing this article, the total number of scientists signing the letter who are sceptical of the big bang has increased to over 400.[1]

One of the great problems for those who believe that the universe came into existence by itself is...

[DesertRhino]

Hell, you cant test God as a hypothesis, and test for him with an experiment, that silly! God is an article of faith. Similar to string theory etc,,The difference is that Christians admit we cant test it. Scientists dont do the same when is the “silly zone” inside physics.

[El Gato]

Maybe you can explain something in easy language. I never understood how telescopes can “look back” to a few hundred million years or less after the “Big Bang “

I'll try. The farther away something is, the longer the light from it takes to get to where we are. Thus the "deeper" we look into space, the farther back in time the light originated. Thus we are seeing things as they were, long ago, not as they are now.

Mostly the light, and by light I mean electromagnetic waves, everything from radio through visible light to gamma rays, was always here, but of of course we haven't been around very long, on these time scales, to look.

There are other effects. We, like everything else, are moving away from the "source" of the Big Bang EM waves. That means, by the Doppler effect (relativistic version) that the light is shifted in frequency. Thus the hot (meaning high frequency, X-rays and Gamma rays) radiation is "red"/down shifted to the very cool (around 3 degrees above absolute zero) microwave radiation we see coming from all directions. This radiation was discovered by In 1964 physicists Robert Wilson and Arno Penzias, of Bell Labs in New Jersey, when trying to find the source of noise in their very sensitive microwave systems.

[DesertRhino]

My bad,, i meant Guardians of the Universe!! Youre killing me bro

[Tolsti2]

A light year is a measure of distance. So your question is like ‘how many miles are there in an earth year’.

[Nathan Zachary]

Time LAG, simple LAG. Unless you are on the Enterprise, then you can call it a time warp or whatever and discuss it with Spock.

[GL of Sector 2814]

How many cosmic light years are there in an earth year?

Are you not aware that a light year is a measure of distance, whereas an earth year is a measure of time?

[Tolsti2]

I’m curious about this ‘lag’ he keeps yelling about. He doesn’t seem to explain what it means.

Also, the clocks in satellites aren’t lagging, they go *faster* than the ones on Earth.

[GL of Sector 2814]

Time LAG, simple LAG. Unless you are on the Enterprise, then you can call it a time warp or whatever and discuss it with Spock.

Why do you suppose that the people who actually designed and built the GPS system disagree with you?

[GL of Sector 2814]

Here's an interesting article:

http://www.aticourses.com/global_positioning_system.htm

While the effect of the satellites velocity around the Earth makes them run slower by 7 microseconds per day, their position outside of Earth's gravity well makes them run 45 microseconds per day faster, for a net gain of 38 microseconds per day.

(Gotta run, it's been a hoot)

[Nathan Zachary]

"whereas those who base their view of the universe upon mythology don't."

Only non-believers base(d) their view on the universe on mythology. Thor, etc.

Creationists base their view of the universe on observation and proven science which is in keeping with the Biblical description of Creation.

[hellbender]

Madison isn't attacking Christianity in your quote. He is attacking establishment of a church, i.e. the government's choosing one denomination and supporting it alone, financially and otherwise, as England did with the Anglican Church and several countries did with the Catholic Church. Madison was absolutely correct that establishment corrupts the church, just as govt. tends to corrupt everything else which it touches.

[broncobilly]

Both “involved.” You mean both have to be involved in the calculation. I doubt that.

[Ira_Louvin]

So you just admitted that “Creation Science” is in fact not science at all.

I guess you need to forward that memo to GGG.

As far as testing physics have you ever heard a super-collider?

[Nathan Zachary]

Lag time, or time, the time it takes something to travel betweeen point a and b, is not a “time dilation”. Although you can imagine it to be if you want to. But that still doesn’t make it so.

The sun exists in the exact same moment of time as the earth does. So does that satellite in orbit around the earth. The time it takes something to travel the distance between any of them doesn’t change the fact that they all exist in the same moment.

[Tolsti2]

You are so completely wrong it’s amazing. Time is relative. This was proven almost 100 years ago too.

[Sherman Logan]

Evo's don't follow scientific protocol. They just keep flogging the dead horse.

To be fully accurate, evolution simply does not address issues such as those discussed in this article. It covers how life spread and diversifies here on earth, while nothing whatsoever to do with the origin of life, the earth or the universe.

[hellbender]

I’ve never heard that the residual microwave background radiation was due to “red shifting”. I thought it was supposed to result from expansion of the universe from its original very hot (energetic) state just after the Big Bang—somewhat analogous to the way the temperature of a gas drops when it is allowed to expand.

[Nathan Zachary]

"Hell, you cant test God as a hypothesis, and test for him with an experiment, that silly! God is an article of faith. Similar to string theory etc,,The difference is that Christians admit we cant test it. Scientists don't do the same when is the “silly zone” inside physics."

Oh yes you can. The strength of your faith proves Gods existence. He heals the sick, provides abundance as promised if you keep and practice his word. His Prophecy fulfilled and being fulfilled is proof of the accuracy of his word.

But if you want him to just do tricks for you, it isn't going to happen.

[count-your-change]

The mismatch between the rate of time passing on a satellite in orbit and a station on the ground has an explanation in part of both the general and special relativity theories.

The time it takes for information to pass between the satellite and the ground is something else entirely.

[allmost]

You have either never read much about the most accurate physical theory in existence. Or you did not understand it. Lag and dilation are two different concepts. The dilation is not just time related but also mass related. It has been measured to accuracies beyond all other physical theories combined. If you can find some info that disputes it I would be interested, it seems as though that is not your intent.