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DC Smackdown: Advanatge Cheney
CBS News ^ | May 21, 2009 | (CBS) Pejman Yousefzadeh: Senior Editor of The New Ledger

Posted on 05/21/2009 5:27:46 PM PDT by lewisglad

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To: lewisglad
Judging forensics and rhetoric, it is clear that while President Obama came to make a speech, Vice President Cheney came to have a debate.

To elaborate:

Knowing he would lose any serious debate with Cheney, odumba thought he would upstage Cheney with pre-emptive bullsh!t.

He failed.

61 posted on 05/21/2009 7:02:35 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: newnhdad

LOL, I started reading your post and for a minute thought it was one I had written. So very nice to see someone come stand up for Bush like I do. I’m tired - thank you, thank you.


62 posted on 05/21/2009 7:05:21 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: Infralutheran

Gosh I didn’t know they made cheerleading costumes in 8X?


63 posted on 05/21/2009 7:05:32 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Cuttnhorse

THANKS!!!!!!!! I will send him a letter.


64 posted on 05/21/2009 7:06:12 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: lewisglad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VANII59j1c

Cheney’s Speech!


65 posted on 05/21/2009 7:09:25 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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To: KeatsforFirstDog

Exactly. When Bush and Cheney spoke, the media ignored or distorted it.

So, of course, many think they never said anything. But, the media would die before they would print anything positive about Bush.


66 posted on 05/21/2009 7:10:48 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: calex59

Cheney did not hate the Bush policies - what is wrong with you? Cheney gave his opinions on everything and Bush made the decisions.

You may not agree with Bush - but he was the one that ran for office and won. Therefore, he puts into place what he believes and can get through.

Seems many think it makes them appear “with it” if they insult Bush or his policies in every statement.

It doesn’t - it shows that you did not realize a good president when you had one. It shows possibly that you were one always criticizing the man protecting your family and providing absolutely no support.

Bush did an awful lot for us in his terms - fought the war, fought the democrats, gave us tax cuts, fought the onslaught of abortion, prevented tax payer money for paying for international abortions. On and on.


67 posted on 05/21/2009 7:19:34 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: ozarkgirl

cheney has been awesome.


68 posted on 05/21/2009 7:26:41 PM PDT by genghis
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To: ClancyJ
Don’t harass Bush for keeping quiet now. He said he did not feel it was his place to speak. And, he is will stand by that.

I have no doubt that George Bush will keep as silent in his own defense now as he did while he was President.

Which is not exactly a virtue in times of crisis.

Presidents, current or former, need to be able to articulate, defend, and advance their positions and their point of view. It's not *bashing* President Bush to point out that he didn't speak up when he should have. It was his job.

Nor is it *bashing* to say he should speak up now. Or is he going to wait for the Obama Department of Justice to drag him to a Democrat-lead war crimes tribunal before he finds his voice?

69 posted on 05/21/2009 7:27:50 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (Oh, well. Back to the drawing board....)
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To: vladimir998
Now how could water boarding be "counterproductive"? Is he suggesting that if I were to water board him, or someone else I intensely dislike I would get nothing out of it?

Frankly, he is wrong. Whether clipping toes and fingers off his skanky body, or water boarding him, or dunking him in ice for 20 minutes, I am sure I would enjoy everything immensely.

You know, torture doesn't always have to be "torture", nor a way to elicit information. Frequently it is nothing more than entertainment ~ and even "fake torture" can do that.

70 posted on 05/21/2009 7:30:45 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ClancyJ
Cheney did hate Bush policies. It was clear by the way he kept his mouth shut. I am not talking about security, we all know that was the one area that Bush excelled at and thank him for that. However, he had the "policy" of not defending himself and he expected everyone in his administration to do the same. Cheney hated that, it is clear that he hated it.

Cheney also was for controlling the border, that was Bush's weak spot on defense and we are lucky that we didn't have another incident because of that.

There were other things that Cheney disagreed with Bush on, and I would bet he hated those policies also.

Bush was not a great President, he was piss poor in many areas, luckily the war on terror was not a terrible weak spot for him, it had some flaws but his interrogation techniques helped keep us safe but to say Cheney loved all of Bush's polocies is just a pipe dream.

71 posted on 05/21/2009 7:34:20 PM PDT by calex59
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To: lewisglad

If more stories were written as this was, there might be hope for the mainstream media. The writer admitted his biases and gave a fair assesment of the speeches.

Like others, I am shocked it came from C BS.


72 posted on 05/21/2009 7:39:25 PM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: Frantzie

Instead we got that “my friends” bullsh*t from Juan McCain.
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I thought if he said that one more time I would SCREAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!


73 posted on 05/21/2009 7:40:01 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder)
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To: ozarkgirl
I have always been a fan of Cheney. He brought much more than mere "gravitas" to the Bush years and he continues his service even though his terms are over. He would have been a great President.
74 posted on 05/21/2009 7:44:49 PM PDT by GBA
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To: lewisglad

“Judging forensics and rhetoric, it is clear that while President Obama came to make a speech, Vice President Cheney came to have a debate.”

When it’s mano-a-mano, Cheney is THE MAN. He never loses a debate. He is by far the most cool-headed, plain-spoken, stick-to-the-facts guy out there.


75 posted on 05/21/2009 7:46:14 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: Frantzie

“Instead we got that “my friends” bullsh*t from Juan McCain.”

McCain was a disaster in the debates. Tried as he might, he couldn’t get an edge, and I don’t even think 0bama is that good a debater. When she debated Biden the Slow, Sarah showed a much stronger ability to mix it up.


76 posted on 05/21/2009 7:49:16 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: lewisglad; a fool in paradise

In a country dominated by man, Cheney would be the Supreme Leader, but we are a country dominated by post-feminist women, with cell phones permanently attached to their ears, vulgar tattooes half an inch above their ass cracks, toe rings on their feet, and faggots as their best “male” friends.


77 posted on 05/21/2009 7:50:41 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: lewisglad

Yow... CBS??


78 posted on 05/21/2009 7:53:36 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Instead we get President Pocket Lint and Fluff spouting inanities meant to warm the cockles of 20 somethings and leftist kooks

But what about hope and change? Those things are chock full of substance and meaning....

79 posted on 05/21/2009 7:55:01 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: newnhdad
Well, they picked on the wrong guy because Cheney ain’t gonna allow that crap to be spewed unchallenged. makes me wonder what could have been if the White House actually fought back and took their defense to the American people.

Precisely my thoughts!! Why did the Bush Presidency not fight back? I am so glad Cheney is taking the lead here.

80 posted on 05/21/2009 8:13:07 PM PDT by ozarkgirl (I'll keep my money, my freedom and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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