Todd O'Connor from Bill Swarski's Da Bears Fans... Just another heart attack.
Posted on 05/19/2009 1:34:22 AM PDT by Schnucki
Obesity may protect against death from heart disease, scientists from Louisiana claim.
Researchers found that obese heart patients respond better to strokes and heart attacks compared to normal or underweight patients.
Although obesity is a leading cause of heart disease, paradoxically scientists say fat and even high cholesterol may have protective benefits.
But researchers say losing weight is still best because obesity triggers more heart attacks and strokes.
Cardiologist Carl J. Lavie, of the Ochsner Medical Center in New Orleans, Louisiana, said: " Overweight heart patients do better than thin patients, but overweight patients who lose weight do best of all.
"It is important to remember that obesity is the leading cause of heart death, and overweight and obese patients have a much higher incidence of heart attacks and strokes."
The obesity paradox has been studied since Kamyar Kalantar-Zadeh published his findings in the journal Kidney International in 2003.
It is knowns as "reverse epidemiology" where obesity and even high cholesterol may have protective benefits and be associated with a greater survivability in certain groups of people such as the very elderly and those with certain chronic diseases.
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
I’ll keep my “few extra pounds” so that if/when the time comes of serious illness or (in this uncertain financial climate) starvation occurs, I have some “reserves” to keep me going instead of wasting away. I am a firm believer of a person being “fat and fit” - cause I’m one of them :-)
You haveve one person thin, athletic with soaring cholesteral
and no heart disease and a pleasingly plump individual
with low cholesteral with chronic heart disease.
Double cheesburger, plaease.
You haveve one person thin, athletic with soaring cholesteral
and no heart disease and a pleasingly plump individual
with low cholesteral with chronic heart disease.
Double cheesburger, plaease.
No surprise here. People with bad habits will always manage to find some crackpot study to justify their continued bad behaviour. It’s often a lot easier to take refuge in crackpottery than making a positive change in their lives.
Okay. So what is it? Stay plump or make (and keep) yourself skinny?
Yep. Wanna bet Limbaugh jumps all over this.
I see so many truly obese people waddling around. I don't understand how they allow themselves to get so fat.
The true sin is seeing a family of fat people. Allowing your sons and daughters to become fat is a mortal sin in my book.
Todd O'Connor from Bill Swarski's Da Bears Fans... Just another heart attack.
Of all the really old people I see, I rarely see fat ones.
What kind of research is this?? It’s better to be thin except when it’s better to be overweight......
I have two friends who are beanpoles. They both have to watch their cholesterol levels like a hawk. One of them lost a brother to a heart attack - in his early 40’s. Another brother had a heart attack and survived. She got a check up and found that she had high cholesterol as well. She’s a lovely, slim young woman (early 40’s) who never imagined she would have this problem.
My mom lived to 80. She had asthma and other respiratory problems. She didn’t have any cholesterol problems until her later years, and she was quite overweight.
I wish my metabolism on you. It will teach you a few things.
Study was financed by the Fatburger chain.
I don't care how many "studies" show otherwise, being thin is far superior to being fat. And it is a shame to see parents allowing their children to get fat because they are setting them up for a lifetime of poor health and misery.
What metabolism? Are not burning any calories at all? Are you taking in more than you burn? Are you saying you have a negative metabolic rate?
Tell me what is so different about your metabolism?
Also, do you think that all fat people are having metabolic problems or are simply lazy and eat too much?
Not at all. I’m just saying that some people have a LOT of trouble losing weight and/or not getting fat. Sure, some people (like Rush Limbaugh) overeat and never exercise and get fat. When they want to lose, they just stop overeating, and the pounds just fall off. Others can work their tails off and eat properly according to Fitday with a calculated calorie deficit and never lose weight. There are more of us then you might think.
Now, take a person who spends an hour on her treadmill every day except on the weekends at 3 MPH and 7.5% elevation burning 600 calories. She lifts weights for a half-hour three times a week. Then on Saturday, she and her husband go hiking on trails rated difficult and spend 4-8 hours huffing and puffing. On Sunday she rests but does some gardening and puttering around. She eats about 1400 calories per day, maybe 1600 on Saturday.
This is a thin person, right?
Wrong. That would be me, and I weighed 230 at the time and couldn’t lose an ounce.
The moment I couldn’t tread anymore, I cut my calories appropriately, but it’s hopeless for me. My encrinologist told me that I have a “survivor’s metabolism.” Fat lot of help that was.
Anyway, it’s hard for me to hear someone say that anyone who is fat “let himself get that way” or is a lazy overeater because we just are not all that way.
So, if you had my metabolism, you wouldn’t be so hard on me because you would learn the reality of my situation.
The thing is, you can’t tell by looking at us which ones are gluttons and which ones eat ‘way less than you do. That old “broad brush” thingy is just nasty.
I noticed with pets over the years that metabolism has a whole lot to do with it. In one case I had two small mammals of the same age — the one that ate all the time stayed skinny and the one that was a picky, fickle eater got fat. Same exercise, too. Genetics explains a whole bunch of it. So I don’t always buy the “it’s your fault” argument.
They're home eating. You're seeing the skinny old people coming back from all those doctor appointments.
My mom is obese and is going to be 94 in a couple of weeks. I heard on the tube yesterday they have found a relationship between weight loss and dementia.
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