Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Vatican: Obama seeks "common ground" on abortion
Associated Press ^ | May 18, 2009

Posted on 05/18/2009 1:48:22 PM PDT by Zakeet

The Vatican said Monday that President Barack Obama was clearly looking for some common ground with his speech at the University of Notre Dame about abortion.

The Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano said Obama's speech at the leading Catholic university on Sunday confirmed what he had said at a recent news conference — that signing the so-called Freedom of Choice Act in the U.S. Congress wasn't his highest legislative priority. The bill would protect a woman's right to have a child or end a pregnancy.

Obama's stance on the issue is that he supports abortion rights but says the procedure should be rare.

The article didn't mention the protest by dozens of U.S. Catholic bishops who denounced Notre Dame for honoring Obama because his abortion rights record clashes with fundamental church teaching.

[Snip]

The Vatican has been open to Obama ever since his election, despite his record on abortion and support for embryonic stem-cell research, which the Vatican also opposes.

Pope Benedict XVI broke Vatican protocol the day after Obama was elected, sending a personal note of congratulations rather than wait to send an official telegram on inauguration day.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abortion; agenda; appropaganda; bho44; bhoabortion; catholic; cult; notredame; obama; popeworshippers; second100days; weakapbs
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-126 next last
To: Zakeet; NYer
This article provides exactly five words written in L'Osservatore Romano: "delicate question of abortion" and "radical."

The rest is an AP paraphrasing.

Perhaps it would be better to obtain the actual L'Osservatore Romano text, rather than simply trusting AP to do it right.

41 posted on 05/18/2009 2:15:50 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Zakeet
cemetery

Obama just wants a common ground decision on where to bury the unborn children that are being slaughtered. The common ground is the cemetery to him!

42 posted on 05/18/2009 2:16:18 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Zakeet
The Vatican said Monday that President Barack Obama was clearly looking for some common ground with his speech at the University of Notre Dame about abortion.

If the this is true, and the Vatican is seeking common ground on abortion, I will be leaving the Catholic Church.
43 posted on 05/18/2009 2:16:39 PM PDT by novemberslady
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mockingbyrd

Yeah - this one has a big stench about it; smells like a demo’rat.


44 posted on 05/18/2009 2:17:30 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: Petronski

It’s ridiculous that the “question of abortion” is a “delicate” one.

If there is any squeemishness, why?
If there is any moral question, why?

If there is a moral question, then there must be question as to whether an innocent human is being killed.

And if there is a question about this, the side to err on is unquestionable.


45 posted on 05/18/2009 2:18:57 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: ArrogantBustard

“There are many toilets in Vatican City. They all need to be cleaned. I’m quite sure that’s not above Zero’s ‘pay grade’.”

Agreed!


46 posted on 05/18/2009 2:18:58 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
The Vatican said Monday that President Barack Obama was clearly looking for some common ground with his speech at the University of Notre Dame about abortion.

47 posted on 05/18/2009 2:21:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Zakeet

Once again something being claimed as being from the “Vatican”.

It is from the Vatican’s newspaper.

The “Vatican” is not a person - several people live in the “Vatican” and have their own struggles with each other.

What really matters is what the Pope says, or the Pope’s spokesperson.

Then we can say it is from the top of the chain of command.


48 posted on 05/18/2009 2:21:51 PM PDT by Scotswife
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Zakeet

this is very troubling. They are sending signals that they are about to choose “social justice” over human life.


49 posted on 05/18/2009 2:21:59 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SecAmndmt
Seeking “common ground” doesn’t affect the outcome for the (murdered) pre-born.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

All aborted children share the “common ground” of death. That is the only “common ground” that matters here.

Obama truly is an “obanination”.

50 posted on 05/18/2009 2:23:14 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Zakeet

Suddenly, AP becomes a reliable source on Free Republic.


51 posted on 05/18/2009 2:23:37 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: berkley

That is so my question, only worded slightly differently!

Obama said at Notre Dame, that it is a MORAL decision. How can that be if it is not a human life? I mean, its not like we worry about removing a parasitic cancer tumor from the body, there is no moral or ethical issue there, unless you don’t believe in doctoring or medicine at all, in which case they would not get an abortion or any other procedure. If, in the case of someone who would doctor for a tumor, how can one be equated with another? For petes sake, does a tumor have a heart beat? Does the tumor have a different blood type? If you leave the tumor alone, after 9 months will it expel from the body and breathe on its own? Sorry, not all “blobs of tissue” are created equally, and they should NOT be treated the same.......


52 posted on 05/18/2009 2:27:00 PM PDT by wombtotomb (ITS NOT ABOUT RIGHT VS. LEFT, ITS ABOUT RIGHT VS. WRONG!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Zakeet

This is part of the further attempt by the Democrats and their media allies (AP) to wedge Catholics on this issue.

The editorial in L’Osservatore Romano is from the April 29th edition. In other words, AP has dug out an old editorial (the same basis, in some ways, for Time’s similar take on No Shame U)and make it headline news the day after the NSU debacle but without disclosing the time lag.

The OR editorial was a review of Obama’s first 100 days in office. OR does not official speak for either the pope or the curia.

In the interim, since this editorial appeared, Archbishop Burke made his speech in Washington. I imagine that to some degree his speech was a response, a correction, to this clueless OR editorial. But of course, the AP writers are clueless about all of that.

Here’s John Allen’s take:

http://ncronline.org/news/vatican/vaticans-moderate-line-obama-has-deep-roots

But now, since AP and Time have tried to use the OR editorial to wipe the floor with pro-life Catholics, the ball is in Burkes and Benedict’s court. They need to come out with a blistering attack on Obama.

But of course, even should they do that, it will be ignored by AP and Time and the rest of the Obama-worshipping press.

But they need to do it anyway.


53 posted on 05/18/2009 2:27:32 PM PDT by Houghton M.
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Houghton M.

If FOCA fails to pass, nothing would change. So its purpose is not to “protect a woman’s right to choose”. It’s purpose is to take choice away from Catholic Hospitals.


54 posted on 05/18/2009 2:30:27 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

To: Huskrrrr

How many do you need?


55 posted on 05/18/2009 2:33:03 PM PDT by dervish (I'm the President see me bow (at 0:50) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S60U-hl35Gw)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: lastchance
This is not a statement of the Pope.

All the article says to me is that Obama seeks common ground on abortion, not that the Vatican thinks a compromise is possible.

And I believe the article is another MSM attempt to screw with Catholics.

Remember confusion is the Devils Realm.

56 posted on 05/18/2009 2:36:50 PM PDT by Never on my watch (The scientist who would have discovered the cure to AIDS in the Amazon was aborted in January 1978)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Zakeet

Hitler seeks common ground on concentration camps and Zyklon B.


57 posted on 05/18/2009 2:37:20 PM PDT by windsorknot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Houghton M.

The editorial in L’Osservatore Romano is from the April 29th edition.

#####

Thanks for posting!!!

If I ever met Obama I would ask him if he could find common ground with Frederick Douglass.

Douglass wrote and lectured for a lifetime on the Fact that a Human Being cannot be the property of another Human Being.

This is exactly the pro-Life argument. The new human being in the womb is NOT the Property of its mother. A person is not a thing.


58 posted on 05/18/2009 2:37:24 PM PDT by maica (Politics is not about facts. it is about what politicians can get people to believe. - Thomas Sowell)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

To: Zakeet
Common ground would demand a respect for the position taken by pro-lifers. If we must have abortions, wouldn't an acknowledgment of the sensibilities of the pro lifers dictate that maybe we could at least dispense with late term abortions or (even worse) infanticide? Barack Obama wouldn't yield ground on even these most wretched manifestations of abortion. Are we, then, supposed to, in some way, seek common ground with him?
59 posted on 05/18/2009 2:37:52 PM PDT by fhayek
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Zakeet

I give up!!!!!!!!!!!Make nice with this loser as he strokes on the masses with words.What about his actions his action speak way louder than his words.How can anyone in the church not see this man for who he is. Lord open their eyes and let them see.


60 posted on 05/18/2009 2:38:35 PM PDT by MES401067 (Lenin called them "useful idiots" I for one have no use for them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-126 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson