Posted on 05/16/2009 9:49:22 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
SAVANNAH, Ga. – Republicans can reach a broader base by recasting gay marriage as an issue that could dent pocketbooks as small businesses spend more on health care and other benefits, GOP Chairman Michael Steele said Saturday.
Steele said that was just an example of how the party can retool its message to appeal to young voters and minorities without sacrificing core conservative principles. Steele said he used the argument weeks ago while chatting on a flight with a college student who described herself as fiscally conservative but socially liberal on issues like gay marriage.
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As Steele talked about ways the party could position itself, he also poked fun at his previous pledge to give the GOP a "hip-hop makeover."
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Hip Hop!! Who in the hell voted this guy in?
How the same true argument that is still a winner even if the media tries to convince us otherwise.
It’s for a man and a woman ... period.
>>How the same true argument that is still a winner even if the media tries to convince us otherwise.<<
Sorry, it is a loser out of the gate. Most benefits are available to “domestic partners” anyway. There is almost no difference between the cost of spouse benefits vs. partner benefits.
>>It’s for a man and a woman ... period.<<
yes it is, but the argument isn’t a fiscal one.
Not the best argument one could make against gay marriage.
The best response to all of this is to state: “This issue gets far too much press and political attention. There are far more pressing issues facing the American people. The press has an obligation to present issues of utmost value and those with “sexual sizzle” which only serve to divide this great Nation. This “homosexual marriage” debate affects such a small percentage of Americans as to be too time consuming and divisive to warrant any more of the people’s valuable time and concerns”
In other words, knock it off.
The Democrats frames the issue as a matter of denying rights, when the truth is that a tiny minority of mentally ill people insist on redefining marriage.
I say go with the truth. (We can leave out the “mentally ill” part.)
Either Michael Steele is an idiot, or he doesn't actually oppose gay marriage and therefore lacks the stomach to argue against it coherently. (I suppose it could be that both are true.)
As long as the RNC can only come up with “spin” on these issues, they are worse than useless. It should go ahead and declare bankruptcy, dissolve and get the hell out of the way. Because it is certainly going to be pushed out the way by constitutional conservatives who are sick and tired of its smoke and mirrors as an “opposition party”.
The media will then portray the evil money grabbing GOP as only concerned about money and their pocketbooks and not about the rights of an individual or civil rights.
This will be a losing stance for the GOP.
How about this “retooling”, you big schmuck:
“No country or culture anywhere on this planet, at any time or place and over thousands of years of recorded history, has ever sanctioned anything other than the marriage of one man and one woman. That’s what marriage has always been, and that’s what it should remain.”
Et cetera.
That’s what conservatism is.
And by way the conservative argument against homosexual marriage has nothing - zero - to do with religion. That’s the religious argument, which is something else entirely.
What makes you think President Reagan would have been against gay marriage? The mark of true conservative is “Is This Constitutional or Not”. Not personally being gay or a graduate of constitutional law program, I would say take the religious argument out of it and then decide.
There are too many self-described “Conservatives” placing a theocratic template atop a constitutional republic framework. In other words, when we elect a Pope and not a President, it will matter what the Good Book says.
>>>> As long as the RNC can only come up with “spin” on these issues, they are worse than useless. It should go ahead and declare bankruptcy <<<<<<
You noticed that too.
“Retooling.”
“Rebranding.”
“The base.”
Disgusting.
I think it’s pretty obvious by now that Michael Steele is no Ronald Reagan. And simply by standing in the way of real leadership, he’s making things significantly worse. The man has had the job for less than half a year and he’s already clearly an embarrassment.
Still clueless.
Steele is a liberal puke moron, but with that said, it is a fiscal issue!
What would your companies group ins rate be if a dozen or so queer partners with AIDS are tossed in the mix?
The sick bastards live for years now and the treatments and drugs cost a fortune.
What happens to the not so sound social security system when you give queers spousal benefits? As it stand now when one queer dies the benefits are gone.
Queer marriage is by no means without costs to the normal public.
I agree. In fact, It's in opposition to the other Republican argument on gay marriage: "it's okay to have civil unions, but no marriage." Well, civil unions would allow joint health coverage.
So Steele's new argument lays a foundation for the Republican Party to oppose gay marriage AND civil unions. No sweat off my back, but I don't think Steele realizes what he's saying.
The biggest fiscal burden imposed by gay “marriage” is erasing the distinction between legitimate male-female marriage and all other weird combinations. If marriage collapses, as it has in the inner city, the taxpayer foots the bill.
Gay marriage is just another nail in the coffin for traditional marriage. By legimating gay marriage, polygamy, polyamory, and multiple partners and all that nonsense, we lose our moral authority to discourage young people from shacking up. They say, if government sanctions and supports all these weird combinations, why can’t my girlfriend and I practice a “trial marriage” or some other weak excuse for old-fashioned shacking up.
And shacking up leads directly to millions of fatherless children.
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