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Obsession with Naked Women Dates Back 35,000 Years (figurine found in southwestern Germany)
LiveScience.com on Yahoo ^ | 5/13/09 | Clara Moskowitz

Posted on 05/13/2009 4:44:19 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

If human culture seems obsessed with sex lately, it's nothing new. Archaeologists have discovered the oldest known artistic representation of a woman - a carved ivory statue of a naked female, dating from 35,000 years ago.

The figurine, unearthed in September 2008 in Hohle Fels Cave in southwestern Germany, may be the oldest known example of figurative art, meaning art that is supposed to represent and resemble a real person, animal or object. The discovery could help scientists understand the origins of art and the advent of symbolic thinking, including complicated language.

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The fixation wasn't just for naked women, though. Early carvings of phalluses appeared in Europe at about the same time.

Little 'Venus'

The tiny statue is carved out of the tusk of a woolly mammoth and is less than 2.5 inches (60 millimeters) long. Instead of a head, it has a ring that scientists think meant it was worn as a pendant looped through string. Paleoanthropologist Nicholas Conard of Germany's Tubingen University reported the discovery in the May 14 issue of the journal Nature.

The oldest human art dates back much further, to between 75,000 and 95,000 years ago in Africa. But that art was abstract, and consisted of geometrical designs .. . This is the first known art to represent a woman, and possibly the first art to represent anything real at all. Another find, a simple drawing that may represent a half-man, half-animal, could be a few thousand years older, but the date on that is uncertain.

The jump from abstract art to representative art seems significant, and might reflect a leap in the cognitive capacity of the human brain around this time. Some experts think that the development might have gone along with a leap in the complexity of human language.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Germany; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: archaeology; figurine; germany; nakedwomen; obsession; psychology
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Helen got a honorary degree from NYU today, so did Hillary and a couple other ‘notables’ as well..


21 posted on 05/13/2009 5:12:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: Lurker

It’s a good thing the head is broken off.


22 posted on 05/13/2009 5:13:36 PM PDT by central_va (www.15thVirginia.org Co. C, Patrick Henry Rifles)
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To: NormsRevenge
Oh, Baby!

23 posted on 05/13/2009 5:14:48 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: NormsRevenge
Hunter gather man had to work his ass of to thicken up his woman like that... must be a rich mans wife
24 posted on 05/13/2009 5:19:26 PM PDT by tophat9000 ( We are "O" so f---ed)
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To: tophat9000

She definitely was from the ‘healthy’ side of the family, maybe not a Biggest Loser candidate.. or the figurine maker was near-sighted or sumthin’ ;-)


25 posted on 05/13/2009 5:21:53 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: NormsRevenge; devolve

[looks like a turkey on ‘roids.]

Hold the dressing.....urp!!


26 posted on 05/13/2009 5:22:55 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: tophat9000

People only lived until 25 back then. 30 was ancient.


27 posted on 05/13/2009 5:22:59 PM PDT by central_va (www.15thVirginia.org Co. C, Patrick Henry Rifles)
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To: NormsRevenge

“If there’s one conclusion you want to draw from this, it’s that an obsession with sex goes back at least 35,000 years,”

Umm - I think it goes back to day one.


28 posted on 05/13/2009 5:27:52 PM PDT by blackminorca
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To: Northern Yankee
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29 posted on 05/13/2009 5:33:29 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain OnTheDress)
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To: NormsRevenge

They probably dated it based on its stamp that says Made in China, 33,000 B.C.


30 posted on 05/13/2009 5:39:54 PM PDT by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: NeoCaveman

If it didn’t go back longer than that, we wouldn’t be here.


31 posted on 05/13/2009 5:43:15 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: OnTheDress

Ugh. Helen Thomas WAS alive back then. But they must have put a basket over her head.


32 posted on 05/13/2009 5:44:10 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl

lol.. I can hear one of the old coots on Antique Roadshow going, “It’s a fake.”


33 posted on 05/13/2009 5:45:31 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I guess women had giant breasts and extremely small heads back then.


34 posted on 05/13/2009 5:45:49 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: NormsRevenge

Ha!....and here’s another stunner.....water is wet!


35 posted on 05/13/2009 5:47:30 PM PDT by irish guard
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To: NormsRevenge

I’m guessing it goes back waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay farther than that.


36 posted on 05/13/2009 5:47:59 PM PDT by CaptRon (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: NormsRevenge
You have to kill the mother bear before they send the fire worm.

Antonio Banderas-The 13th Warrior

See? The statue is a fake. It is a Hollywood prop about nine years old. The radio carbon dating is confused by the hamburger grease smeared on it by the prop guy.

37 posted on 05/13/2009 5:51:56 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: potlatch

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The Attack Of The 35,000 Year Old Women......


38 posted on 05/13/2009 5:53:06 PM PDT by devolve ( . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Hey kids! Let*s elect a confessed cokehead! . . . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: OnTheDress

LOL...


39 posted on 05/13/2009 5:53:36 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: devolve

And what an attack it would be........lol.
Wonder what they used to carve it with, stone chips or their teeth, snicker.

FAT seemed to be good way back in time.


40 posted on 05/13/2009 5:56:45 PM PDT by potlatch
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