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Poll: 5 of 6 measures in Calif. election trailing (taxpayer revolt in CA?)
Mercury News ^ | May 8, 2009 | Staff

Posted on 05/08/2009 6:32:56 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative

SACRAMENTO—Five of the six budget-related measures on California's May 19 special election ballot are trailing, particularly among voters who say they're closely following election news, according to a Public Policy Institute of California poll released Thursday. "The voters who are really tuned in are really turned off," said Mark Baldassare, president and chief executive officer of the San Francisco-based research organization. "They see the state's budget situation as a big problem, but so far they don't like the solution."

The six propositions, put on the ballot by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and lawmakers, are an attempt to deal with the state's persistent budget deficits.

The centerpiece of the package, Proposition 1A, would impose new state spending restrictions and temporarily extend a series of tax increases adopted by the Legislature and signed by Schwarzenegger in February to help erase a $42 billion budget shortfall.

Proposition 1A was opposed by 52 percent of the 1,080 likely voters questioned by the PPIC in a telephone survey conducted from April 27 to May 4. Only 35 percent said they supported the measure.

Opposition was even stronger among poll participants who said they were closely following news about the election. Among that group, the proposition was losing, 65 percent to 29 percent.

The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: California
KEYWORDS: ballotmeasure; california; calinitiatives; deficits; ppic; prop1abcdef; spending
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To: St. Louis Conservative

I once lived in a small German village while I was in the Army. I used to hike up to the top of the mountain and explore the ruins of a medieval castle. Only the gigantic foundation stones were left. I asked the locals what happened. They told me that the nobles taxed and oppressed the peasants until one day in the 14th century, IIRC, the peasants rose up and stormed the castle, killed all of the nobles, and pulled down the castle walls. All of the houses and barns in the village had stones from the dismantled castle in their walls. Spontaneous peasant rebellions. It could happen.


21 posted on 05/08/2009 6:59:38 AM PDT by darth
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To: St. Louis Conservative

When Arnold first got it in, he tried to pass some anti-union measures and he was roundly defeated. After that, he completely switched gears and has become basically just another Gray-out Davis. This time around he is actually in bed with the unions. The unions began running Yes on 1A and 1B ads weeks ago. The irony is that usually the unions get their way in this state; usually being hitched to the governor and legislature has helped the unions in their power grabs. But this time the voters are “mad” at the politicians and so the unions may actually lose this round! It’s not that California voters actually know what they’re doing. Californians generally fall for the “larger class size”, “teacher lay-off”, “fewer firefighters and police” rhetoric. I don’t see this as an actual tax revolt by Californians


22 posted on 05/08/2009 7:13:57 AM PDT by mbs6
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To: St. Louis Conservative

NO on the props is on all the Talk Radio programs. ‘Yes’ is only polling 35%. Howard Jarvis’ group has come out swinging against it. And it is a small election, so there won’t be a big turn-out, which is in our favor.

Plus, I think John and Ken (Talk Radio) are having TaxPayer Revolt meetings around the state? I have no fear these will pass in CA.


23 posted on 05/08/2009 7:24:42 AM PDT by bboop (obama, little o, not a Real God)
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To: bboop

The scare tactics by the state supported ads are not working. Californians have been told emergency services will be cut when that is furthest from the truth. All non essential services will be cut first. That is the truth and the reality. Californians are not falling for these scare tactics and the state government rhetoric which they have heard thousands of times before from the governors and legislators that have gone before.


24 posted on 05/08/2009 7:36:51 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: St. Louis Conservative
The solution was to toss everybody out five years ago and replace them with real Conservatives that want to lower taxes and DRILL, DRILL, DRILL!

Unfortunately, so far, no time machine has been invented outside of PC/Apple commercials, and thanks to business hostile tax meansures, you guys are screwed. Have a bowl of granola and live with it.

25 posted on 05/08/2009 7:41:46 AM PDT by 50sDad (The mainstream media is the only watch dog that decides what it is going to bark at.)
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To: bboop

Good.

Yes, a low turnout would benefit to anti-prop forces. The motivated people to turn out are highly likely to be opposed to these measures. Hopefully it’s a crushing defeat.


26 posted on 05/08/2009 7:46:19 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: St. Louis Conservative
Only Proposition 1F, which would bar state elected officials from getting pay raises in years in which the state runs a deficit, had support from most of the likely voters questioned. Seventy-three percent said they intended to vote for the proposal, but that was down from 81 percent in a March PPIC poll. Twenty-four percent said in the latest survey that they opposed the proposition.

All states--and the federal government--need a stronger version of Proposition 1F:

All legislators will receive a pay cut by twice the percentage the budget is over the previous year's budget adjusted for inflation and will receive a pay increase equal to the percentage the budget passed is under the previous year's budget plus inflation.

I suspect rather than just a proposition, such a measure would have to be an amendment to each state's constitution.

In short, the goal must be to prevent the continued growth of government.

27 posted on 05/08/2009 7:54:48 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: St. Louis Conservative

I was just listening to Armstrong & Getty in Sacto. on 650 am.

They’re both PISSED at Arnold, the lying dumbacrats, and all the lying union commercials trying to tell everyone that if these props aren’t passed, there go our fire & police protection, OF COURSE... the teachers!

They just spent about a half hour reading EVERY state agency that could be cut before they went after the most needed positions, and it took them a whole half hour to read the list NON-STOP QUICKLY!

It was insane some of the BOGUS agencies that are paid for by US! One even had to do with transgender CRAP!! Not to mention all the overlapping, redundant agencies that probably do the same thing, and probably are even needed in the first place! The environmental garbage was INSANE! No wonder this state is SO SCREWED UP!!

Yeah... The police and firefighters are the ones that need to be cut, MY A$$!! SAME OLD LIES... EVERY TIME!!


28 posted on 05/08/2009 8:14:05 AM PDT by RogerWilko
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Do you follow this closely or was this in your local paper. It would be great if this is becoming a national story.


29 posted on 05/08/2009 8:15:08 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: LS

an earlier thread might be useful http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2240386/posts

other threads come up via searching for “measures” in the title


30 posted on 05/08/2009 8:19:51 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: raptor29

Wait till June when the unemployment benefits run out, and every month after that another group of unemployed runs out of the benefits. Can we say urban riots in summer 2009. Waiting for an overzealous cop to ignite it.


31 posted on 05/08/2009 8:41:43 AM PDT by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: Fee

“urban riots...”

Very likely. Freeloaders don’t like it when the gravy train is interrupted.

Isn’t it just amazing, however, that the Republican Party has such an incredible opportunity to point out the various “CASE STUDY NUMBER ONE” examples of what happens when liberalism goes unchecked, and they choose not to point them out? California, New York, Michigan, Massachusetts, all these states falling apart after one party rule, and no Republican willing or able to make the case. What clowns we have ‘representing’ us.


32 posted on 05/08/2009 9:14:03 AM PDT by raptor29
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