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Iran Launches Airstrikes Into Iraq
The Weekly Standard Blog ^ | May 4, 2009 | Weekly Standard

Posted on 05/06/2009 6:20:13 AM PDT by penelopesire

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"To say this complicates the Obama administration's diplomatic outreach is to put it mildly. This administration -- in fairness, not unlike the last few years of the Bush administration -- seems prepared to make an endless series of concessions to Tehran in order to secure a peaceful resolution of the nuclear issue. Yet despite these repeated overtures, the Iranians refuse to budge even an inch and instead make announcements of more centrifuges and new missiles. Now they're launching airstrikes in Iraq."

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To: william clark

Time to bomb the aspirin factories of Iran???


121 posted on 05/06/2009 11:06:50 AM PDT by downtownconservative (As Obama lies, liberty dies!)
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To: penelopesire

Our troops were ordered out by summer by Iraq according to a article. If Iraq orders us out then when they fail is it our fault?


122 posted on 05/06/2009 11:10:21 AM PDT by OafOfOffice (Did You Ever Get The Feeling That The GOP Went Out For A Cigarette & Never Came Back?)
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To: Tammy8
Please pray for our military- they desperately need our prayers.

Yes! and bump to your tagline as well.

123 posted on 05/06/2009 11:12:22 AM PDT by happygrl (Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
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To: Syncro

Kurdistan of course extends into Turkey and Iran.

That’s the main reason that Turkey would not let us enter Iraq through their country [nice ally].
Free Kurdistan!


Well i really have no clue about this fight about a free Kurdistan (Nor do i know that much about the different goals) but it allways wonders me why Turkey is considered as an ally of the “western” world.


124 posted on 05/06/2009 11:25:45 AM PDT by Jonny foreigner
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To: Jonny foreigner
yes this is how politics is played. and for exactly the same reasons the US will not even critize Iran for this attack. Because if you condemn Iran for this attack you would allso condem Turkey (because they kill exactly the same people even at the same location). and given the fact that the US carries out airstrikes in pakistan (for the same official reason to kill terrorists) it´s impossible to act against Iran in this case.

You most certainly can criticize Iran for these attacks. And we may still do so. IMO the only reason we haven't is because Obama thinks he can negotiate with the mullahs to eliminate their nuclear program.

We carry out attacks in Pakistan with the apporval of the Government of Pakistan. No comparison.

So while it´s theoretical really an act of war against the “sovereign” country of Iraq you can do nothing against this. because once you say this you would admit that you are doing excatly the same in Pakistan and even further this would mean your “Ally” turkey fights an war against Iraq for years now. politics IS dirt buisness.

It is up to Iraq to determine if Iran has committed an act of war. Many Iraqis don't like the Kurds either, which is why Saddam used WMD against them and why we protected them under the no-fly zones. Many Iraqi Kurds would like to be an independent country. If you look at the Iraqi Constitution, the Kurds are given unique rights of autonomy. Turkey is an ally, no question or nuance about it. We are committed under the NATO charter to go to Turkey's defense if it is attacked by a country outside NATO.


125 posted on 05/06/2009 11:28:37 AM PDT by kabar
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To: penelopesire

Who is Iran targeting in Iraq? Will our weak-kneed TOTUS bow down to the Mullah’s of Iran now?


126 posted on 05/06/2009 11:31:54 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: scannell
well that makes the Arabs equally related to the Kurds since Abraham is the father of Ishmaiel via Haggar.

I would not say equally, as Ishmael was half Egyptian by the concubine Haggar, and Isaac was fully Kurdish, because Sarah, his mother, was from the same tribe as Abraham.

You may also remember that Abraham's son Isaac, married his cousin Rebekah, who was still living back in Ur.

And their son Jacob, also married Rachel and Leah, his cousins. Then Jacob was renamed "Israel" by the Lord, and he produced twelve sons from which the Twelve Tribes of Israel are descended.

The Jews, therefore, are descended from a Kurdish line, paternally and maternally, while the Arabs are descended from a paternal Kurdish line and an Egyptian maternal line.

127 posted on 05/06/2009 11:32:33 AM PDT by happygrl (Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
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To: Jonny foreigner

You may be correct in your statement about Turkish strikes into Iraq. However, you forgot to mention that there was an anti-Turkish terrorist group operating inside Northern Iraq that was making strikes into Turkey prior to those Turkish air strikes into Iraq.


128 posted on 05/06/2009 11:36:05 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: penelopesire

“Why have we heard nothing of this in the MSM? “

Just waiting until the consent on the correct way to blame Bush. Then they will all simultaneously release the news.


129 posted on 05/06/2009 11:38:43 AM PDT by CriticalJ
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To: bert
I don’t fault Iran for shelling the Kurd bad guys. They need to be put down

I do. We should not condone it given Iran's central role as the world's biggest state sponsor of terrorism. We should give them no pretext or fig leaf for any intervention within Iraq. They are providing weapons to the insurgents that kill Americans.

130 posted on 05/06/2009 11:41:06 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Syncro
.Free Kurdistan!

Talk's cheap. I suggest you haul your ass over there to help make it happen.

131 posted on 05/06/2009 11:42:43 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

I do. We should not condone it given Iran’s central role as the world’s biggest state sponsor of terrorism. We should give them no pretext or fig leaf for any intervention within Iraq. They are providing weapons to the insurgents that kill Americans.


First i´m not a “fan” of Iran too but to say it´s the worlds biggest state sponsor of terrorism is just not true. the world biggest terrorist sponsor against the “western” world is still the official close US ally Saudi Arabia. Iran is a declared enemy of Israel, True (funds Hezbollah, Hamas... to fight Israel).Iran is not know as the biggest US “fan” too. Allso true. But when it comes to fund world wide Terror attacks Saudi Arabia is the country you should watch close. Iran has little to no interesst outside of the middle east.


132 posted on 05/06/2009 11:52:49 AM PDT by Jonny foreigner
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To: penelopesire; All

wow, this is major news, so Obama is gonna have a little talk with Adolf Ahmad-ineJIHAD?


133 posted on 05/06/2009 11:59:43 AM PDT by Masti
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To: Jonny foreigner
So turkey is allowed to kill Terrorists (that´s how they call em) but Iran is not?

Iran doesn't kill Jihadi terrorists. They ARE Jihadi terrorists. They also fund such groups from around the globe so that there might be a chance some of the US military might get killed or better yet, innocent American civilians! Remember the old saying (well okay, maybe YOU don't), but it goes: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. We don't much care what Iran claims it's doing outside their own borders. We pretty much do know that whatever they are doing it will have some direct and harmful consequences on our military, our civilians or our national infrastructure, to include the economy. It is not in our best interests to let them go running all over causing such trouble. But OhhhhhBaby is going to let them do just that.

One
Big
A$$
Mistake
America!

134 posted on 05/06/2009 12:04:01 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Jonny foreigner
First i´m not a “fan” of Iran too but to say it´s the worlds biggest state sponsor of terrorism is just not true. the world biggest terrorist sponsor against the “western” world is still the official close US ally Saudi Arabia.

It is according to the USG and the State Department. And I disagree profoundly that Saudi Arabia is the biggest state sponsor of terrorism. It is not government policy and Saudi Arabia has been the victim of the Iranian sponsored terrorism. I am sure you are referring to the funding of Madrassas, but that is not state sponsorship of terrorism.

But when it comes to fund world wide Terror attacks Saudi Arabia is the country you should watch close. Iran has little to no interesst outside of the middle east.

I lived five years in Saudi Arabia and two years in Iran [during the fall of the Shah and the rise of Khomeini.] Is suggest you read the following excerpt from the State Department's annual report from the Office of the Coordinator for Counterterrorism:Chapter 3: State Sponsors of Terrorism

Please note that the above report contains no mention of Saudi Arabia and documents Iran's activities that go beyond the Middle East.

135 posted on 05/06/2009 12:11:58 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

.Free Kurdistan!

Talk's cheap. I suggest you haul your ass over there to help make it happen.

"Talk's cheap."

Oh I suppose you could say that, being an imbiber.

kabar to bert
I don’t fault Iran for shelling the Kurd bad guys. They need to be put down

I do. We should not condone it given Iran's central role as the world's biggest state sponsor of terrorism. We should give them no pretext or fig leaf for any intervention within Iraq. They are providing weapons to the insurgents that kill Americans.

"I suggest you haul your ass over there" and do something about it.

Pony up, "free" kabar.

136 posted on 05/06/2009 12:22:57 PM PDT by Syncro (Obama: the Muslim call to prayer is "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.")
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To: Syncro

Been there, done that.


137 posted on 05/06/2009 12:29:03 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Jonny foreigner
Well i really have no clue about this fight about a free Kurdistan (Nor do i know that much about the different goals) but it allways wonders me why Turkey is considered as an ally of the “western” world.

I agree with you about Turkey. Although claiming to be secular, it is an Islamic state IMO.

As far as the Free Kurdistan! that I posted, it was merely a statement describing a senerio for a perfect world. As far as I know there is no Free Kurdistan movement.

Although it did get one hypocritical keyboard cowboy a bit vaclempt.

138 posted on 05/06/2009 12:30:02 PM PDT by Syncro (Obama: the Muslim call to prayer is "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.")
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To: ExSoldier

Iran doesn’t kill Jihadi terrorists. They ARE Jihadi terrorists. They also fund such groups from around the globe so that there might be a chance some of the US military might get killed or better yet, innocent American civilians! Remember the old saying (well okay, maybe YOU don’t), but it goes: One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter. We don’t much care what Iran claims it’s doing outside their own borders. We pretty much do know that whatever they are doing it will have some direct and harmful consequences on our military, our civilians or our national infrastructure, to include the economy. It is not in our best interests to let them go running all over causing such trouble. But OhhhhhBaby is going to let them do just that.


No i haven´t said that Iran kills Jihad Terrorist. i only said in this airstrike in northern Iraq they tryed to kill the same kurds like the Nato ally turkey does (Turkey calls them Terrorist). it was my intention to sound exaggerated in this statement to show the double standarts the press would bring up if the US would stop Iran bombing them but at the same time does nothing when Turkey does exactly the same (they call it war against Terror). yeah we have that old saying about one mans terrorist is the other mans freedom fighter... too (of course in german :-)
as said bevore it can not be denied that Iran funds organisations that fight Israel. i´m pretty shure that they don´t have sleepless nights about killed US soldiers (because of their actions) in Iraq too. But where is the evidence that Iran funds Terror acts outside the ME? when have they been involved for example in an ongoing Terror act in the US against civilians for example? There are many countries in this region which openly support this. again how about Saudi Arabia??? Shure Iran is definitely an enemy of Israel and can be considered as an enemy of the US or it´s interessts. True. But i see no evidence that they active support global Terrorist against the western World.


139 posted on 05/06/2009 12:31:23 PM PDT by Jonny foreigner
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To: kabar

Thats great.

I have the greatest respect for our covert agents in Iran.


140 posted on 05/06/2009 12:33:38 PM PDT by Syncro (Obama: the Muslim call to prayer is "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.")
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