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Jeb Bush, GOP: Time to leave Reagan behind
washingtontimes ^ | Sunday, May 3, 2009 | Joseph Curl

Posted on 05/04/2009 4:20:21 AM PDT by VU4G10

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Saturday that it's time for the Republican Party to give up its "nostalgia" for the heyday of the Reagan era and look forward, even if it means stealing the winning strategy deployed by Democrats in the 2008 election.

"You can't beat something with nothing, and the other side has something. I don't like it, but they have it, and we have to be respectful and mindful of that," Mr. Bush said.

The former president's brother, often mentioned as a potential candidate in 2012, said President Obama's message of hope and change during the 2008 campaign clearly resonated with Americans.

"So our ideas need to be forward looking and relevant. I felt like there was a lot of nostalgia and the good old days in the [Republican] messaging. I mean, it's great, but it doesn't draw people toward your cause," Mr. Bush said.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bush; duplicate; gop; jebbush; nc4na; ncna; rebuilding; stayoutdabushes; teaparty
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To: Arrowhead1952; PhilDragoo; devolve; potlatch; y'all

We need MORE Reagan-like folks in the GOP and
LESS RINOS methinks.

Mirroring the ‘RATS is a LOSING proposition.


121 posted on 05/04/2009 10:23:46 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (2008: The year the Media died. --Sean Hannity, regarding Barack HUSSEIN ObaMao's treatment ...)
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To: VU4G10

Hasta la vista, Bush!


122 posted on 05/04/2009 10:37:00 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: ZULU
Jeb Bush said:
"We have principles, we have values. They are the values that are shared by the majority of Americans, there's no question about it. But we have to now take those principles and values and apply them to the challenges that our country faces today and in the future. ...

"And then, hopefully - God willing - [we] embrace our conservative principles and take these new ideas and present them to the American people," he said.
I don't know, that sounds like a pretty clear confirmation of Conservative principles.
123 posted on 05/04/2009 10:37:25 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Partial-birth abortions are state sanctioned torture.)
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To: VU4G10

Note to Jeb.

We are leaving the Bush’s, the Cuomo’s and the Kennedy’s behind, and take your Buddy McCain with you.


124 posted on 05/04/2009 10:46:29 AM PDT by HonestConservative (http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/49252)
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To: VU4G10
Like I said in another thread:

These are absolutely the wrong people to reinvent the Republican party.


125 posted on 05/04/2009 10:52:57 AM PDT by wastedyears (Iron Maiden's gonna get ya, no matter how far!)
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To: tanknetter
The Republican Party needs to stop looking for the next Reagan to come riding on horseback out of the Sun to save us, and start looking for the next principled, Conservative leadership (plural) that is capable of moving the Party and Movement forward.

Well, Jeb Bush ain't even fit to hold the pony. He was a shill for amnesty. His brother, President Bush, also shilled for amnesty while spending money like a drunken sailor.

We're not looking for the next Reagan. We're just looking for a pubbie who has Reagan's core conservative convictions, with adaptations for what we have seen over the last decade (we DO need some regulation of the financial sector, for example). The group that Jeb and Mitt and McCain are forming thinks the GOP needs to drift leftwards. In other words, it's the same old Rockefeller versus Goldwater intra-party squabble.

126 posted on 05/04/2009 10:54:45 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Sudetenland
NO MORE BUSHES!!!
127 posted on 05/04/2009 10:55:14 AM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: VU4G10

Uh, Jeb — yes, the message of “hope and change” does indeed resonate. That’s what Reagan’s vision in 1980 was all about, as people were looking for a departure from the failed Carter administration.


128 posted on 05/04/2009 10:57:42 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: Vaquero

No, no, I was speaking to the masses who haven’t yet realized the absurdity in not having folks present a voter i.d. of some kind to avoid fraud. Not directed at you, only at your comments about “morons”...I think it was you...


129 posted on 05/04/2009 11:00:24 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: VU4G10
The former president's brother, often mentioned as a potential candidate in 2012, said President Obama's message of hope and change during the 2008 campaign clearly resonated with Americans.

And when the American people finally recognize their huge mistake, will they see the Republican party as the only clear alternative? I doubt it. I think they will see the Republican party as more of the same with less friendly faces.

130 posted on 05/04/2009 11:06:27 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: VU4G10

The GOP should have seen this coming back in 2004 after ZERO gave his keynote address at the DNC. I did, and I’m not that keen on politics. The biggest mistake that the GOP made, IMHO, is thinking that the American public wanted to be told the truth and that the ‘Rats would actually tell the truth.

The 66 million who voted for ZERO wanted to be told what they wanted to hear and in the way they wanted to hear it.

The slogan for 1994 was, “It’s the economy, stupid!”

The slogan for 2008 was, “It’s the stupid, stupid!”

The GOP could have derailed the Obama Express with a single question, but they were too stupid to ask it.


131 posted on 05/04/2009 11:13:53 AM PDT by Polarik (Forgeries are forever)
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To: VU4G10
> "You can't beat something with nothing, and the other side has something. I don't like it, but they have it, and we have to be respectful and mindful of that."

As the saying goes -- "I used to be disgusted. Now I'm just amused."

HOW STUPID ARE THESE GUYS? Do they REALLY think that any conservative is going to fall for this?? And do they think that any liberal is going to "convert" for this???

132 posted on 05/04/2009 11:21:26 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Alberta's Child; algernonpj; alice_in_bubbaland; Ballygrl; Calpernia; certrtwngnut; Clemenza; ...

NJ Freepers, if you haven’t seen this yet — you’ve got to put your two cents in on this idiotic statement from Jeb Bush...


133 posted on 05/04/2009 11:24:26 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: VU4G10
Where has this guy been? Bush I gave us X42, and Bush II gave us (or HELPED to, anyway) Obamanation, and it's Reagan we need to rid ourselves of?

Hey Jeb, here's a quarter, go buy a clue...

134 posted on 05/04/2009 11:37:17 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Who ever thought we would long for the days of the Clinton administration...)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
Did it already -

NO MORE BUSHES!!!!

135 posted on 05/04/2009 11:42:47 AM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
you’ve got to put your two cents in on this idiotic statement from Jeb Bush...

Yup, read it. Jeb can go stuff his head in a sewer pipe.

136 posted on 05/04/2009 11:49:42 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: NewJerseyJoe

thanks, bfl


137 posted on 05/04/2009 12:21:27 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: VU4G10

“The Florida governor joined former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and House Republican Whip Eric Cantor on Saturday at a small pizza parlor in Arlington for the inaugural event of the National Council for a New America (NCNA). “

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Oh Good! Three globalist who have been bought and paid for by global corporations, banks, and financiers schmoozing.

This is why I will no longer vote for the lesser evil. The lesser evil is still evil.


138 posted on 05/04/2009 12:21:56 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: bereanway
The former president’s brother, often mentioned as a potential candidate in 2012, said President Obama’s message of hope and change during the 2008 campaign clearly resonated with Americans.”

And that's why the Bushes worked so hard behind the scenes to elect Oba Mao. Just as eight years of Clinton rehabilitated Daddy Bush's image and got George Jr. (barely) elected, they think that One Big Assed Mistake America will do the same for Jeb.

139 posted on 05/04/2009 12:31:03 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: wbill

“For what it’s worth, though, I think that we might be better off without him. McCain get elected, there’s no tea parties. There’s no conservative blowback. AND, we’d just wind up with roughly the same crap being shoveled at us.”

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Agreed. I got duckered into voting for Bush the second time on the lesser of 2 evils argument. I look back and wonder what would have been so different with Kerry.

Bush called those who wanted the borders secure ‘vigilantes’, pushed for amnesty of the 30 - 40 million illegal in the US, ‘changed his mind’ about signing on to Kyoto (cap and trade), abandoned Ramos and Compean, signed TARP, etc.

The difference between Obama and McCain is mainly window dressing.


140 posted on 05/04/2009 12:32:42 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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