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Deep Core Tests for the Age of the Earth
Reasons to Believe ^ | Dr. Hugh Ross, Ph.D.

Posted on 05/01/2009 10:11:09 AM PDT by mnehring

The clash between young-earth and old-earth creationists can seem bewilderingly technical at times. Is there any easy-to-understand scientific data for determining whether Earth is young or old?

In recent months, new evidence has emerged that may be simple enough for everyone to understand, regardless of science background-as simple as counting tree rings.

Scientists are learning much about Earth's past by drilling deep into its surface-both ice and rock-with specialized instruments to remove long cylinders, or "core" samples. Six deep ice cores and one sediment core now provide a clear and continuous record of Earth's history. The ice cores reveal hundreds of thousands of ice layers laid down on top of one another year by year, just as a tree adds one new growth ring per year. Three deep ice cores pulled from Greenland record the past 120,000 years.1 Three deep cores in Antarctica-Dome Fuji, Vostok, and Dome C-allow researchers to look back 340,000, 420,000, and 740,000 years, respectively.2

How do scientists confirm that these ice layers correspond to years of Earth's past history? They can check for telltale markers, such as volcanic ash signatures. The Krakatoa eruption of 1883 and the Vesuvius eruption that wiped out Pompeii and Herculaneum in AD 79 left their specific marks in exactly the annual layers anticipated. Climatic cycles also allow for testing. As it turns out, these cycles-caused by regular variations in the eccentricity or ellipticity of Earth's orbit (period = 100,000 years) and the tilt of Earth's orbit (period = 41,000 years)-correspond perfectly with what's seen in those core layers. Finally, researchers have performed radiometric dating of minerals embedded in the ice to make sure their age corresponds with their annual layer, and in each case it does.

Further corroboration comes from a sediment core drilled off shore from New Zealand's Southern Alps. It reveals the past 3.9 million years of Earth's crustal history.3 Though each layer in this core represents a few centuries rather than a single year, the climatic cycles and events in this core for the past 740,000 years match perfectly with corresponding layers in the Dome C ice core. Such a calibration builds confidence that these cores yield a continuous climatic, geological, and astronomical record for the past few million years at least.

Proponents of young-earth creationism respond to this compelling evidence by pointing to possible problems at the tops and/or bottoms of the core samples as if such anomalies render the entire dating analysis unreliable.4 For example, the bottom 15,000 layers in two of the three Greenland cores are disturbed by ice folding close to the bedrock. Such disturbance (caused by extreme pressure conditions), however, in no way invalidates the 105,000 layers above or the 123,000 layers in the third core (the NGRIP core). The burial of the "lost squadron" of World War II under 250 feet of Greenland ice and snow in only 50 years has been offered as proof that the 10,000-foot-long Greenland ice cores cannot represent 100,000+ years of history.5 However, intrusions into the layers by localized forces and events does not invalidate them. In this case, the lost squadron crashed in a relatively warm area of southern Greenland where, unlike the sites of the three deep ice cores, several melts and refreezings per year can occur and seven times as much snow falls per year.

According to Psalm 19:1-4, God speaks not only through the words of the Bible but also through the record of nature. Since God speaks truth and chooses to reveal Himself, nature's record and the Bible's words can be expected to agree. The ice and sediment cores provide compelling extrabiblical evidence that the earth is indeed ancient. This evidence supports the literal interpretation of creation days in Genesis 1 as six long epochs.6

References

  1. K. K. Andersen et al., "High-Resolution Record of Northern Hemisphere Climate Extending into the Last Interglacial Period," Nature 431 (2004): 147-51.
  2. Laurent Augustin et al., "Eight Glacial Cycles from an Antarctic Ice Core," Nature 429 (2004): 623-28; Jerry F. McManus, "A Great Grand-Daddy of Ice Cores," Nature 429 (2004): 611-12; Gabrielle Walker, "Frozen Time," Nature 429 (2004): 596-97.

  3. Robert M. Carter and Paul Gammon, "New Zealand Maritime Glaciation: Millennial-Scale Southern Climate Change Since 3.9 Ma," Science 304 (2004): 1659-62.
  4. Larry Vardiman, "Rapid Changes in Oxygen Isotope Content of Ice Cores Caused by Fractionation and Trajectory Dispersion Near the Edge of an Ice Shelf," Creation Ex Nihilo Technical Journal, vol. 11, no. 1 (1997): 52-60: Michael Oard, "Do Greenland Ice Cores Show Over One Hundred Thousand Years of Annual Layers?" Creation Ex Nihilo Technical Journal, vol. 15, no. 3 (2001): 39-42.
  5. Carl Wieland, "The Lost Squadron," Creation Ex Nihilo, vol. 19, no. 3 (1997): 10-14.

  6. Hugh Ross, A Matter of Days (Colorado Springs, CO: NavPress, 2004), 51-148.


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1 posted on 05/01/2009 10:11:09 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

YECers (and that really bizarre “time changes over time” idea) in 3... 2... 1...


2 posted on 05/01/2009 10:13:46 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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Just because the earth may have existed centuries before man proves nothing regarding human life.


3 posted on 05/01/2009 10:17:59 AM PDT by Kackikat (It isn''t over till it's over, and it s not over yet.....when the TRUMPET sounds I'll be gone...)
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Just because the earth may have existed centuries before man proves nothing regarding human life....correction THOUSANDS of YEARS before man.


4 posted on 05/01/2009 10:18:40 AM PDT by Kackikat (It isn''t over till it's over, and it s not over yet.....when the TRUMPET sounds I'll be gone...)
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>>correction THOUSANDS of YEARS before man.

I think you mean BILLIONS.


5 posted on 05/01/2009 10:22:49 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003; GodGunsGuts

A sad day for GodGunsGuts. Reality comes knocking.

Reminder: The belief in the actual passage of time does not mean that we Christians don’t hold Jesus as our savior. G^3 forgets that and damns us all to hell.


6 posted on 05/01/2009 10:36:10 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: mnehring
Is there any easy-to-understand scientific data for determining whether Earth is young or old? In recent months, new evidence has emerged that may be simple enough for everyone to understand, regardless of science background-as simple as counting tree rings.

The problem is this article starts with the false premise that creationist actually want to understand and want to seek the truth.

The author is forgetting Morton's Demon

7 posted on 05/01/2009 10:45:45 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: mnehring
The clash between young-earth and old-earth creationists can seem bewilderingly technical at times.

I've never really thought of Archbishop Usher's genealogy as "bewilderingly technical."

8 posted on 05/01/2009 10:51:12 AM PDT by atlaw
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To: mnehring

Physics/theology ping


9 posted on 05/01/2009 10:51:57 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: bolobaby
does not mean that we Christians don’t hold Jesus as our savior. G^3 forgets that and damns us all to hell.

No one can condemn anyone to hell - one condemns them self. Holding Jesus as your Savior doesn't get you into heaven. WE are called to follow Him - you put down your own life and live strictly for Him - a personal relationship w/God The Father. Many will be shocked when they hear the words, Go, I never 'knew' you. Some are more interested in the creations of God, instead of The Creator Himself. Remember - there will be only a remnant saved. You can't know Jesus - if you don't know and live His Word. For He is The Living Word.
10 posted on 05/01/2009 10:53:58 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: mnehring

Creationism hinges on a young (6,000 year old) earth. But proponents rarely address independent evidence of the vast age and scale of the universe beyond earth as shown by simple astronomical observations. They’re just Darwinists with telescopes...


11 posted on 05/01/2009 10:56:54 AM PDT by PC99
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To: qam1
The problem is this article starts with the false premise that creationist actually want to understand and want to seek the truth.

It's only a problem if you consider young earth creationists to be the only creationists, and they aren't.

It's logically consistent to believe in the facts of science and the bible. Many do.

12 posted on 05/01/2009 10:57:04 AM PDT by jimt
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took the words out of my mouth, thanks.


13 posted on 05/01/2009 10:58:20 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

I’ve had that same talk before about the Genesis “day” as defined by godly not man’s 24 hour clock can be easilly interpretted as involving a great expanse of time.


14 posted on 05/01/2009 11:01:17 AM PDT by FormerRep
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To: jimt
It's only a problem if you consider young earth creationists to be the only creationists, and they aren't.

It's logically consistent to believe in the facts of science and the bible. Many do.


Amen to that.
15 posted on 05/01/2009 11:01:29 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: FormerRep

Hence, the old joke:

A man asks God what a million years is to him, and God replies, “a second.”

Then he asks God what a million dollars is to him, and God replies, “a penny.”

So then he asks God if he could have a “penny.” God answered back, “Yes, in a second.”


16 posted on 05/01/2009 11:03:15 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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“It’s logically consistent to believe in the facts of science and the Bible. Many do.”

Count me in on that! I remember my old man years ago talking to a guy he had built a house for and later became friends with. A Dr. Robert Page, inventor of radar in WWII. Dr. Page was very active in Bible studies, etc.. My old man (also a big Bible study guy, etc.) asked him once “So, don’t you ever have problems trying get some of the stuff in the Bible to fit in with your scientific view of the world”.

Dr. Page replied something to the effect of “No. Actually, the more I learn about our world from science, the more confident I am that there is a Creator.”

Although, like me, I’m pretty sure that when Dr. Page spoke of a Creator he was NOT thinking of the 6,000 year type of creation.


17 posted on 05/01/2009 11:06:42 AM PDT by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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To: dfwgator

Classic.


18 posted on 05/01/2009 11:11:00 AM PDT by FormerRep
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To: dfwgator

Actually, I didn’t know that one and am LOL here! :)


19 posted on 05/01/2009 11:11:52 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: jimt
It's logically consistent to believe in the facts of science and the bible. Many do.

That's a stumbling block if you are looking for Truth. Using logic to understand The Supernatural is a sure way of being deceived. Everyone's logic is different but there is only One Truth. As far as 'many do' - it's confirmation of the Word of God - only a remnant will be saved. God is The Creator - if HE said 6 days it's six days. God deals in the Supernatural and man deals in logic to undertand the supernatural. It ain't gonna happen. Man's ego is more important to him than God's Word.
20 posted on 05/01/2009 11:14:12 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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