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Is swine flu 'the big one' or a flu that fizzles?
Yahoo! News / The Associated Press ^ | April 26, 2009 | Mike Stobbe

Posted on 04/26/2009 11:51:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

As reports of a unique form of swine flu erupt around the world, the inevitable question arises: Is this the big one?

Is this the next big global flu epidemic that public health experts have long anticipated and worried about? Is this the novel virus that will kill millions around the world, as pandemics did in 1918, 1957 and 1968?

The short answer is it's too soon to tell.

"What makes this so difficult is we may be somewhere between an important but yet still uneventful public health occurrence here — with something that could literally die out over the next couple of weeks and never show up again — or this could be the opening act of a full-fledged influenza pandemic," said Michael Osterholm, a prominent expert on global flu outbreaks with the University of Minnesota.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: avianflu; disease; flu; h1n1; h5n1; influenza; mexicanflu; mexicanswineflu; mexico; mexiflu; pandemic; pandemicpaanic; panic; swineflu; vaccine; vaccines
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We are not the self-reliant people that weathered over half a million deaths in the USA back in 1918. Anything like that will destroy the fabric of our "civilization" in short order, IMO. If your job can be done from home, maybe your employer will see that that would be best. Anything that keeps one out of contact with a lot of people is probably ideal. All my work is over the phone, and most sales jobs can be customized for that, if need be.
1 posted on 04/26/2009 11:51:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Will the author be disappointed if if fizzles?


2 posted on 04/26/2009 11:52:53 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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Probably depends on if he’s touched by it, just like all the other elitists.


3 posted on 04/26/2009 11:54:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("The unarmed man is not just defenseless - he is also contemptible." Machiavelli)
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#1 Many people are beginning to suspect this is a manufactured virus

#2 I’ve read one site that says this virus is the same or similar to the 1918 virus

#3 What about our food supply? We have many imported foods in the produce section of grocery stores, particularly from Mexico.


4 posted on 04/26/2009 11:54:59 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (The government turns every contingency into an excuse for enhancing power in itself. - John Adams)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is something strange about it being in Mexico and the Obama visit there at the same time. I think I am in a “wait and see” mode on his health. If he is sick all bets are off.


5 posted on 04/27/2009 12:01:20 AM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The prospect of dying of swine flu tends to make me less skeptical of karma.


6 posted on 04/27/2009 12:02:44 AM PDT by VR-21 (Think it's time we stop, Hey what's that sound.....)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

If manmade, possibly could fizzle rather quickly. The DNA science is not yet up to good old evolution in the wild.

ex-Texan is one freeper who suggests we lay in a goodly supply of foil against this one, but funny he put it in email to me rather than post to all. I can’t comment because I don’t know whose contradictory account (H1? H5?) is correct.

Food supply, may be more in trouble from Mexicans getting too sick to work harvests than from viruses borne on produce.


7 posted on 04/27/2009 12:02:55 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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Bookmark


8 posted on 04/27/2009 12:10:44 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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Will O’dumbo the manchild slacker psoing as POTUS now have to stay in the WH and not take his daily Air Force one trips? He will go crazy. He might have to actually work for a change.


9 posted on 04/27/2009 12:19:48 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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Over the last few days several posts on this matter have gotten my attention.

If it is like the 1918 flu, very strong immune systems would seem to be a problem; immune system overreaction is what has been hypothesized to have caused the deaths of so many young people back then.

In the U.S. so far, we haven't seen this type of response (that we know of).

Perhaps Mexico today is more like our country was in 1918...people were exposed to all kinds of dirt, garbage, water contamination when they were children, thus creating very strong immune systems.

We've seen an increase in asthma and allergies here, which has been explained by some as being due to our obsession with antibacterials and hyper-cleanliness. Perhaps the fact that our immune systems are not as strong is a good thing in this case?

10 posted on 04/27/2009 12:27:30 AM PDT by garandgal
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As I posted on another thread:
I am thinking that there are some very official type officials who are wanting everyone to be scared crapless of something other than GOVERNMENT for a while, and remember instead that GOVERNMENT is the SAVIOR of all.

Thats what I think.


11 posted on 04/27/2009 12:31:28 AM PDT by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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Is swine flu 'the big one' or a flu that fizzles?

I feel pretty good.

12 posted on 04/27/2009 12:33:09 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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1918 had another factor: war.

Three million draft call-ups, massive crowding in transportation, training facilities, troop ships, bond rallies, etc.

Plus the stress on resources, including medical that war brings, and in dividing the nations attention and forcing a cold decision: react to epidemic or make war.


13 posted on 04/27/2009 12:38:41 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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Hmm. Wonder if for this very reason the US, Canada, and Japan will weather this flu rather well, but the rest of the world get decimated?


14 posted on 04/27/2009 12:48:20 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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It’s been a long time since we’ve had a serious outbreak, at least in the developed world. Many probably think it can’t happen again - although if history is a guide it most certainly will sooner or later.


15 posted on 04/27/2009 12:59:03 AM PDT by eclecticEel ("Envy is always referred to by its political alias, 'social justice.' " - T. Sowell)
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I know that well. Hundreds died just a few miles from my doorstep at Camp Dodge, in Iowa. Otherwise healthy young men and women. Oddly, according to one account the guys who had just arrived from Alaska were particularly hard hit.

Also, my Grandma’s cousin Mary went off to France as a nurse, survived the war, and died of the flu at the age of 23 after she had returned home.

http://www.iptv.org/IowaPathways/mypath.cfm?ounid=ob_000279


16 posted on 04/27/2009 1:16:08 AM PDT by garandgal
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Thanks for the link, very interesting.

One theory has it that the flu started at a military base in US, traveled overseas with troops, mutated there, and came back here to be the killer in the fall.


17 posted on 04/27/2009 1:44:44 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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One article about the 1918 flu which links it to Aspirin use..
18 posted on 04/27/2009 2:05:54 AM PDT by agere_contra
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That is why the Mexicans on the street call it the Obama Flu. Why have they been so QUICK to say it was NOT bioterrorism. I know here in Mexico MANY that are in rural areas that already had the sniffles, the head ache, the plegm, and in 2 or 3 days are back to work. They don’t have clinics or microscopes to know what STRAIN of flu it was, and we’re all back up and running. It’s a HOAX..never miss an opportunity that a crisis affords.


19 posted on 04/27/2009 2:49:08 AM PDT by rovenstinez (...)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; 2ndDivisionVet
How swine flu spreads in humans

Swine flu (H1N1 virus) is a variant / mutant of avian flu (H1N5 virus) which, according to medical and world governments' "experts", was supposed to wipe out quarter to half the world's population... and after costing taxpayers billions of dollars to buy vaccines that nobody used, fizzled out quite nicely due to awareness and changes in hygienic behavior and precautions.

In other words, go long pharmaceuticals and short airlines... and no, it's definitely not a financial advice, only a reflection of what happened in the past with avian flu "pandemic" and what's likely to happen with this swine flu "pandemic".

So get ready for onslaught of political blowhards on the subject. If only we had a vaccine against them!

20 posted on 04/27/2009 3:02:46 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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