Posted on 04/26/2009 6:20:31 AM PDT by Eric
My fellow veterans please forgive me. But I must purge my soul. I only ask that you reserve judgment until you read all of if. I only want peace for all and a world free of torture.
What I saw in the military was much worse than water boarding. The prisoners were taken to a 12 foot deep pool. Feet weighted they were forced into the pool. Those who hesitated, were moved onto a plank high above the pool and forced off. They were to stay in this deep water for over an hour feet weighted and in full clothing. Those who touched the side of the pool had their fingers stepped on by angry guards. Not enough to break their fingers as that would reveal this terrible secret but just enough to inflect severe pain without detectable injury. The guards knew their craft well. Like water boarding, the prisoners were not allowed to drown. No, that would expose the cover-up.
It gets worse! I must tell all! They were then taken to a wooden building far from the main complex. A lantern like device burned in the middle of the building. It gave off a horrible gas. The prisoners were forced to run around the lantern without the benefit of the gas masks worn by the guards and sing in their native language their countrys patriotic songs. I saw them with my own eyes as they were finally released from the windowless building: eyes red, mucus flowing uncontrollably from their mouths and noses. Some looked near death. A spec of humanity prevailed as they were allowed to recover for several minutes before being taken to the bleachers.
The prisoners were taken to the bleachers. I think there were about one hundred of them. They were not restrained, no that would blow this horrible trick. The bleachers were located in a bug infested marsh. Those prisoners who moved their hands in any effort to ward of the flying bugs were severely punished. Mockingly, the guards in the native language of the prisoners said that their bugs had to eat too. The guard threw a dud hand grenade into the helpless group. He laughed as they scattered in terror. The prisoners were regathered and prepared for more.
I saw one prisoner taken out of out of line in just his shorts which were on backwards. Horrible sexual innuendos and insults were directed at him. I saw a tear roll down his cheek.
The prisoners were United States Marine recruits the torture described above was part of our training. The guards were drill instructors. The above is why we shake our heads in disbelief when water-boarding, bugs, and loud music are described as torture by the main stream press.
The above prepared us for combat so that fair-weather pacifists can stand on our street corners only in the best of weather. God forbid, they should be out in the cold or even worse the rain as that would resemble water-boarding.
Ed
USMC.
Vietnam 1967-1968
OORAH!
Correcting a Marine’s grammar and p[unctuation: now THAT’S torture!
BTW, I got it by the middle of the second paragraph! and I am spamming all my friends with it!
As is evident by some of the posts even here on FR, many people only read headlines or the first line of a story to gain their "knowledge" on a subject.
While effective for those who use intellect over emotion, this type of message never reaches those who need it most - the "react first - think never" type, i.e. all liberals.
Unless of course, you were on liberty in the Philippines...
>Marine Corps training is independent of what is done in the Navy. Your assumption is AFU.
So then, I’m to expect that being shipbord personnel they’re NOT going to give you some of the same training that sailors should go through for going overboard?
Also, the Marines are under the department of the Navy, meaning that their training is [technically] Navy training. (Take a look at their pay-stubs if you don’t believe me.)
What happens on deployment, stays on deployment. :-)
>The key is to keep them good and wet, theyll retain more air that way.
The water’s surface-tension[?] forms a nice seal there in the clothing’s weave-gaps, so that makes sense.
ya know, this thread reminds me of the Movie FULL METAL JACKET. Civilians watched this movie with horror, Marines watched this movie with absolute glee and hysteria.
THis thread most likely will degenerate into that hysteria: civilians will all decry the horror of boot camp, Marines and Soldiers will all brag about how sick they got in the gas chambers!!
Exactly right.
^^^^Not Actual Marines on Liberty in Phillipines
But close enough for government work
LOL Yup!
Semper Fi!
LOL. Ping me with your response, A.A..
the deep end of Parris Island’s pool was 12 feet. Your’s probably was at Fort Dix, too.
I call BS.
weighted feet is most likely a reference to wearing full combat gear, boots and all. No one I saw ever wore ankle weights as any additional weight, everything we had on was enough.
The bit in the USMC boot camp swimming pool had a name. It was called “drown-proofing” training. I distintly recall chuckling when I heard the name and got a drill instructor elbow to the side of the head. I guess that too was torture in today’s world.
as a former Marine, I can say there is real truth to the point this author is driving home.
The cries of "torture" from the left-wing, regarding the interrogation methods we use against our enemies, is as much of a farce, as their charges against Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Arizona. They say it is inhumane to have prisoners living in tents out in the Arizona heat.
Like this posted story, Conservatives point out that our American military has been doing that for YEARS, and with no problem (or worries about them from the military-loathing left).
The same is true of something I heard from one of the Marine reservists I trained while on I&I duty in Atlanta. He worked in a prison in Tennessee, and told me that the grade of meat required for convicted and incarcerated criminals by the government (not sure if state, fed, or both) is HIGHER than that required for our military.
The un-American, America-LAST contingent (civilian and government) is repulsive, disgusting, and shameless, and MUST be stopped from ruining our country.
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