Posted on 04/25/2009 5:51:39 AM PDT by FreedomFighter1013
In a discussion this morning with a cell biologist and medical doctor working at Johns Hopkins, my friend thought this 4-part flu combination is highly unusual and looks like it could be man-made. Especially because it has an avian strain. My doctor friend (he's Taiwanese) explained that in Asia, it's common for a avian-swine-human flu to happen naturally, but this virus first showed up in Mexico, where pigs and ducks are not usually raised together. Also, recombination of more than 2-different flu viruses is extremely rare. I'm just repeating what he said as an expert in the field. He says the CDC needs to explain if there is a possibility that we are under a bio-weapon attack.
From CDC via Wikipedia: Anne Schuchat, director of CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said that the American cases were found to be made up of genetic elements from four different flu viruses -- North American swine influenza, North American avian influenza, human influenza A virus subtype H1N1, and swine influenza virus typically found in Asia and Europe. For two cases a complete genome sequence had been obtained. She said that the virus was resistant to amantadine and rimantadine, but susceptible to oseltamivir (Tamiflu) and zanamivir (Relenza).[22][23][24] Preliminary genetic characterization found that the hemagglutinin (HA) gene was similar to that of swine flu viruses present in U.S. pigs since 1999, but the neuraminidase (NA) and matrix protein (M) genes resembled versions present in European swine flu isolates. Viruses with this genetic makeup had not previously been found to be circulating in humans or pigs, but there is no formal national surveillance system to determine what viruses are circulating in pigs in the U.S.[25] The seasonal influenza strain H1N1 vaccine is thought to be unlikely to provide protection.[26]
This is CDC live interview on now.
http://www.videonewswire.com/cdc/58388/event.html
Thank you. These are scary times for all of us. We can bury our heads under the pillow or we can look these boogerbears straight in the eye. We are not the dumb sheep they think we are.
Another poster there says that the local news is also reporting 200 dead.
dead and sick people leave their land and possessions to be taken by others
Weird thing is there was also a Randell Flag who posted here too
because its possible the “new strain” is a screw up that occurred during a vaccine test that was intended to develop a vaccine effective against multi flu strains, an dinstaed combined strains of live and perhaps genetically altered flus
remember in the winter a lab in Austria “accidentally” sent live bird flu-contaminated vaccine to a lab in Eastern Europe, which found out when the test animals died
PANDEMIC by Daniel Kalla
“Bird viruses meet their human counterparts in the bloodstream of the swine, where they mix and mutate before spreading back into the human population. And a new flu is born.
...In an age when every single person in the world is connected by three commercial flights or fewer, a killer bug can travel much faster than the flu of 1919.”
http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/k/daniel-kalla/pandemic.htm
How do they have a vaccine ready to give to people for a mutated strain NEVER SEEN BEFORE? What is the normal length of time the FDA and AMA would test an experimental vaccine before using it on human subjects???
Something doesn't smell right here. If there was a vaccine for this ready before the outbreak someone in the pharmaceutical and bio world knows about it.
He’s still here.
If it’s 200 dead.....
http://pub29.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=2442810129&frmid=8&msgid=998900&cmd=show
Now that “tin foil hat” message is one of those interesting coincidences, isn’t it?
Perhaps crashing the economy was not working as effectively and efficiently as needed. We were supposed to be under martial law by now
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1994684/posts
See #81
You stay safe my FRiend.
http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/04/25/dr-marc-siegel-the-most-powerful-virus-is-fear-not-flu/
Maybe they want us, our land, etc. not the money? The dollar is plunging anyway, maybe they just want everything else. The gold, the buildings, the people, the future taxes when it lets up.
Another thought, can China and Iran really be happy about a one world government. Seems to me they want control and would worry that they wouldn’t be the victor, so they are being preemptive.
I’ll take my tinfoil hat off, but just since there where ideas being thrown out there, I wanted to throw in a theory! ;0)
Does anyone know if WHO has tossed around the term “pandemic” in the past?
It seems there’s either A) a situation much more serious than we’re being told OR B) overeaction/panic for an unusual (three-in-one) flu.
The thing I find unusual is this happening in the spring- not the normal flu season.
It does sound a little suspicious if such strains were genetically combined in experimental vaccine tests and then it pops up in the human population. A little too convenient. How was the stock doing before the outbreak?
There had been these cases of contaminated vaccines (with an Avian strain) in the Czech Republic, Austria, and possibly other European countries. That actually happened.
It just stretches credibility that they had a vaccine ready for a mutated hybrid swine-human-avian never seen before. How was there time to test that? Who was tested, when and where?
I thought I remembered some high-blown pandemic talk about SARS- but this seems a little different.
As to vaccines being ready so early- I’m thinking perhaps he meant something like tamiflu. A vaccine couldn’t be developed for this specific flu yet.
Texas Town Closes High School:
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/Health_officials_close_Cibolos_Steele_High.html
He still does, though not so often.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.