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McCain Strategist Warns GOP Risks Becoming 'Religious Party'
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Posted on 04/17/2009 1:01:30 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

McCain Strategist Warns GOP Risks Becoming 'Religious Party' Steve Schmidt urges Republicans to begin voicing more support for civil unions and gay rights.

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Friday, April 17, 2009

John McCain's top adviser from the presidential campaign urged fellow Republicans on Friday to warm up to gay rights and warned that the GOP risks becoming the "religious party" with its opposition to same-sex marriage.

Steve Schmidt, in his first political appearance since the election, spoke at the Washington, D.C., convention for the Log Cabin Republicans -- a grassroots group for gay and lesbian Republicans.

He urged Republicans, in the near-term, to endorse civil unions and stop using the Bible as rationale for gay-marriage opposition.

"If you put public policy issues to a religious test, you risk becoming a religious party," he said. "And in a free country a political party cannot be viable in the long-term if it is seen as a sectarian party."

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To: Servant of the Cross
Steve Schmidt has a lesbian sister (and her partner) that he is trying to please. He doesn't care about the Republican Party! And neither does John McCain. He needs to get back to the in-crowd in DC and around the country. He held is nose and ‘accepted’ us ‘religious nuts’ because he wanted to win an election. His true colors are showing (AGAIN).
121 posted on 04/17/2009 1:43:03 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Never on my watch

Seconded!


122 posted on 04/17/2009 1:43:39 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Sub-Driver
And in a free country a political party cannot be viable in the long-term if it is seen as a sectarian party

All political parties are sectarian. I prefer to be a in sect without sodomites. I don't care if we lose every election until kingdom come. If sodomy is a right, I want to be wrong.

123 posted on 04/17/2009 1:43:41 PM PDT by Theophilus (The people who were going to buy your home got aborted 30 years ago.)
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To: puroresu; steve-b
This is what happens when a society becomes socially liberal. It doesn’t become “live and let live”. It unleashes ugly forces that use government power to force everyone in society to acquiesce and pay homage.

That's what these folks are salivating for. They not only want full license to display all their vices without shame, they want the rest of us to praise them for it.
124 posted on 04/17/2009 1:44:35 PM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: Sub-Driver

So as I understand his point, we need to choose between being a sectarian party or a Gay party.

Okay, left me give that some thought.

-Ignore the bible. Check.

-ignore the related health issues. Check.

-Ignore the further degridation of our youth and society. Check.

-Teach our children that perversion is acceptable. Check.

-Support sex acts that result in sharing each others feces. Double triple check.

-Help to encourage our children to learn by example and further public exposure how to participate in these unnatural acts. Check.

I am beginning to think (a recently developed theory) that ‘some’ folks might actually be born with gay sex tendencies and drives, and in my view that is very unfortunate for them, but I sure doesn’t make this behavior publicly acceptable to a point of encouraging others to participate.


125 posted on 04/17/2009 1:44:56 PM PDT by Gator113 (I'm a PROUD RIGHT WING EXTREMIST.... Obama has failed, IMPEACH Obama NOW....)
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To: SoConPubbie
The founders compromised and left slavery “legal” in the constitution. What would they say about the results of that inclusion say, oh, about 140 years ago? Our founders actually did attempt to keep us out of a theocracy, but that doesn't stop the left from insisting that is the rights ultimate goal.

Times change, and the inability to adapt to change is yet another successful stereotype the left has pinned to the right.

126 posted on 04/17/2009 1:45:10 PM PDT by Pox
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To: Antoninus

The same lack of difference turns up in the with/without children stats. That falsifies your hypothesis.


127 posted on 04/17/2009 1:45:27 PM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: Antoninus
they want the rest of us to praise them for it

When hell freezes over!

128 posted on 04/17/2009 1:45:35 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Sub-Driver
I am sick to death of anything McVain. Put a sock in it, you blowhard! Put the other sock in Meghan's.

Nam Vet

129 posted on 04/17/2009 1:45:42 PM PDT by Nam Vet ("Any fool can make a rule, and any fool will mind it." .... Henry David Thoreau)
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To: Sub-Driver

“”If you put public policy issues to a religious test, you risk becoming a religious party,”

Forget religion! How about NATURE!?? Most neanderthals could figure out female and male long before RELIGION. The primitives everywhere seemed to figure it out. It’s not NICE to fool mother nature!

Had enough rino’s yet? They twist words and meanings just like the liberals.


130 posted on 04/17/2009 1:46:00 PM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: steve-b
That won't solve the problem because the homos will still demand that private, Christian landlords be forced to rent to them. They'll still demand that spoken or written opposition to homosexuality be declared “hate speech” and prohibited. They'll still drag e-Harmony into court and force them to arrange homo match-ups. They'll still try to force their way into the Boy Scouts. And on and on.
131 posted on 04/17/2009 1:46:34 PM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: kenavi
Like it or not, it’s sage advice.

No, it's not. He might as well have said "Republicans should join as the RINO wing of the Democrat party to avoid future defeats".

132 posted on 04/17/2009 1:46:34 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: Antoninus

agreed
if we told this country we ARE THE PARTY OF man and wife, mother and father we would easily win.

I know plenty of Democrats who hate homosexual agenda and if we made this a big subject we most certainly could take many seats.

The Dem running in those districts which are working class, black and Hispanic would really back off from the homos but all we do is tie the Dems to homosexuality and we will win for a cert

as you say though the GOP is spineless about it for fear of name calling and yet the majority of Americans oppose homosexuality.

We divide the Dem party by using this tactic as well, I would love to see many Dems near the election squirming away from homos


133 posted on 04/17/2009 1:47:27 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Trod Upon
it should certainly be the party the religious feel at home in.

The Democrats have more religious beliefs than Republicans. Consider the faith based religion of man-caused global warming. It's just that their beliefs range from Pagan to New Age and are ultimately damaging to America.

134 posted on 04/17/2009 1:47:35 PM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
"That wasn't the question in my post, I asked if he was for changing the meaning of words to appease the opposition.

I'm not sure I exactly understand what you're saying. What words? Marriage?

I believe Goldwater's position would still be a federalist one. It's not the business of the federal government to define marriage, it should be left to the states. Certainly, his colleague Buckley, who wasn't a proponent of gay marriage, was squeamish about a US Constitutional amendment to ban it, but was in favor of a State Constitutional ban.

As for changing the meaning of words to appease the opposition, I don't believe that's what's being done. We live in a Representative Republic that should and does bend to the will of the majority. The US Constitution doesn't address marriage in any way, nor should it in my opinion. And, if the majority of people agree, then marriage should be defined in which ever way a state's legislative body (not judiciary) defines it. If one state wants to recognize gay marriage and another doesn't, so be it.

Like I said, I would be happy just to codify civil-unions and move on to the next subject.

135 posted on 04/17/2009 1:48:12 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: Sub-Driver

Steve, you do realize, don’t you, that advice from you right now is sort of like Matt Millen telling an NFL general manager “you’re doing it wrong”.


136 posted on 04/17/2009 1:49:35 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: AuntB
Yes, I have always had enough of RINOs!

Just because Steve Schmidt has a lesbian sister doesn't mean I should change my beliefs to satisfy him!

Let him deal with his family issues at home and leave the party politics out of it!

I don't care what his sister does. Just don't expect the rest of us to accept her life style because he does!

137 posted on 04/17/2009 1:50:48 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: manc
We divide the Dem party by using this tactic as well, I would love to see many Dems near the election squirming away from homos

As an issue, it's a gift to conservatives. Unfortunately, there are too many homos in the GOP top tiers for them to do it. It's yet another place where the GOP is compromised and weak.
138 posted on 04/17/2009 1:50:53 PM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: calex59
I am through with these dumb a**ed republicans.

Me too...but I think Rush is saying that to date there are no viable third parties to vote for and that creates a big problem for us

139 posted on 04/17/2009 1:53:21 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (I'd rather the world hate us then laugh at us)
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To: Sub-Driver

Not all conservatives are Christian evangelical types. Up to an extent he is giving sage advice. But instead of shutting out the same Christians they need to develop a party that is friendly to other types of conservatives as well. You can not just embrace one thread. It takes many threads to make a rope. Instead of trying to define conservatives as being of one persuasion we should recognize that every subculture in this society has a conservative type that can be brought out. We can and should develop as many as we can that will fit under the umbrella.


140 posted on 04/17/2009 1:53:24 PM PDT by bilhosty (tax payers for change)
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