Yeah this turned out so well last time...
The differences between red and blue are irreconcilable in my opinion. Secession seems inevitable.
The flaw in the government set up by the Founders is that there is no mechanism for expelling states that are toxic to the freedom/free enterprise system that the nation was built on. Secession of the patriot states leaves them open to attack by the stronger force of the federal military. Expulsion of those states not true to American values would be the solution to many of our problems today and would leave the true American union intact. The socialist states would wither away after expulsion, because they are parasites living off the labor of others through the public dole, enabled by politicians buying votes with the tax money of producing states. Think of what a robust nation we would be without this drag on our body politic!
We're then confronted with a parasite ideology, liberalism, which sponges off the constructive and productive elements of society, and uses the aforementioned internal diversity as a battering ram to get what it demands. Add in the arrival of feminism, secularism, and homosexualism, and you've got the makings of balkanization. There is no possibility of conservatism surviving in a very diverse society. It can't survive because conservatism by its very nature seeks to conserve what existed before the diversity occurred, while the diverse elements by their very nature are at war with those things. In addition, all these diverse elements feed off of the accumulated capital of conservatives, both by stealing our tax dollars and hijacking our constitutional order (as feminists and homosexuals have done). As diversity increases, conservatism must recede or depart.
It will never happen. The socialists will never let the Free-Marketeers go. They need the Free-Marketeers because those are the people who generate the wealth that the socialists need so desperately. Without the Fee-Marketeers the socialist entities would collapse in complete ruin within months if not weeks.
No the socialists will use the gun barrel before they will let anyone escape their evil net.
The concept should be purge.
Rather than leave, the entire northeast and California should be purged from the union as a start. The euros should be kicked out of the union
Lets see how Obama, Pelosi, Reid and Frank handle that.
If a person openly petitions his state government's elected officials to secede from the United States, is that person guily of sedition or worse, treason? Or is the aforementioned speech Contitutionally protected?
I for one will support the break as much as possible. Looking at my tax dollars as an investment is yielding exponentially low return.
I say HELL YES for Texas secession.
Rather than secede, why don’t we just kick out the blue parts?
Well, let’s acknowledge that secession didn’t work 140 years ago. However, all one needs to is read the journals of the men and women of the time, Sullivan Ballou’s letter comes to mind, to understand that this generation might not be so willing to wage bloody war to force the issue.
All you have to do is read a few of these blogs and personal pages of our time side by side with these to realize the critical difference. Those who dwell in continual blubihood are more afraid of the discomfort that war brings than those of the Civil War age were of dishonor.
Definition. A blubie: Voters whose development was arrested at the mental age of 18 months.
The NappyOne
The trouble with his talking about secession (instead of, maybe the 10th Ammendment?) is that “secession” carries with it baggage.
What baggage you ask? That would be the baggage of the last secession which will be - mark my words - translated (using Alinsky’s Rule #12 - Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it) by those who want to “demonize’ those opposing the increased growth and intrusion of the Federal gov’t to:
“Neo-Secessionist apparently want turn back the clock 150 years in their desire to revive the Confereracy. People wonder if the governor of Texas also wants to reinstitute slavery, plantations, the fugitive slave law, and the 3/5ths compromise.”
Note for all those who will undoubtedly begin defending the Confederacy, their actions against the North, the evils of Lincoln, how schools have mistaught history, etc, etc, etc -— I am NOT saying I agree with what probably will be said, rather that it WILL be said.
Rather than secession, I think we need talk of having a constitutional convention. Top issues should be reining in government spending, the Federal Reserve system, and putting some controls on the judiciary (bench term limits?) to curtail/end a judiciary that legislates from the bench.
I’m ready to move: Texas, Alaska, Montana. Fine with me!
Our federal Union: it must be preserved.
- Andrew Jackson toast given at the Jefferson Birthday
celebration in 1830
Welcome to the 1850’s!
Secession is treason. Secession is the same thing as saying the Great American Experiment in Democracy is a failure. Lose an election, have a tantrum and destroy the union. Congratulations Al Queada, you’ve acquired unexpected allies.