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The Escalating War Between Obama and Bush
DC Examiner ^ | April 14, 2009 | Byron York

Posted on 04/13/2009 9:09:34 PM PDT by Scanian

Former White House adviser Karl Rove's bare-knuckled response to recent statements by Vice President Joe Biden has brought into public view a growing resentment on the part of Bush administration veterans over what they regard as repeated and unwarranted slams from the Obama White House. The current president and his team are being "gratuitous, slightly petty, and slightly obsessive in blaming Bush for things," one former White House adviser told me.

"Completely gratuitous," said another.

"Unfair," said a third.

The hard feelings surfaced after an April 7 interview on CNN in which Biden recounted a visit with George W. Bush. "I remember President Bush saying to me one time in the Oval Office…he said, 'Well, Joe, I'm a leader.'" Biden recalled. "And I said, 'Mr. President, turn around and look behind you. No one's following.'"

A few days later, Rove accused Biden of lying. "It didn't happen," Rove said on Fox News. "He's making these things up out of whole cloth…It is a habit he ought to drop….You should not exaggerate and lie like this when you are the vice president of the United States."

Rove said he had checked with fellow Bushies like former chief of staff Andrew Card and former congressional liaison Candida Wolff, who did not remember anything like Biden's story. What was left unsaid was that while former top White House officials denied it, there was little doubt that the former top White House official, George W. Bush, denied it, too. Rove and the former president stay in touch; it would be very, very surprising for Rove to say something so definitive about Biden without checking with the best possible source for the story, Bush himself.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: attacks; bho44; bush; byronyork; obama; resentment; rove
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To: bray

Here’s my comment to the wing nuts at the Examiner:

“Vast majority? I love the mob rule mentality. 5% is not a vast majority and that 5% has been dropping steadily since president Obama was sworn in (the second time without cameras). Since when did the mob rule mentality decide the principles of this nation. The “vast” majority of Americans did not want to fight the civil war yet more of us died in that war than any other. And speaking of the 1860’s, if Obama idolizes Lincoln so much, why doesn’t he start acting like Abe. I don’t remember any speeches in which Lincoln ingratiated himself to the crowned heads of Europe by telling them he had inherited all his problems from President Buchanan. Lincoln had class, courage and wisdom. Obama has press secretary Gibbs.”


41 posted on 04/13/2009 10:40:37 PM PDT by johnnycap
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
"I can’t under any circumstance picture Joe Biden mustering up the nerve to say that to Bush’s face"

Nor can I.

42 posted on 04/13/2009 11:07:23 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: Frantzie
Biden is stupid but he is not evil.

Plagiarist Joe has a serial record of intellectual property theft (i.e., plagiarism). In college, it's considered cheating and he should have been tossed out. In positions of professional trust, it should end a career. It slowed, but didn't stop Plagiarst Joe.

Evil? I don't know if he's evil. He's certainly corrupt, arrogant, lazy, dishonest, a cheat and a thief. Oh, and he's also intellectually challenged.

I agree that he's just a distraction from the real game. However, he is darn close to evil, if not evil. Does this make him somewhat evil?

43 posted on 04/14/2009 1:11:38 AM PDT by Entrepreneur (The environmental movement is filled with watermelons - green on the outside, red on the inside)
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To: guitarplayer1953
Hell we shot those pet peeves a long time ago here in Kansas we say Worsh instead of Wash and Crick instead of Creek.

Department of English will be enforcing correctness soon, unless you are an illegal immigrant.
44 posted on 04/14/2009 1:34:32 AM PDT by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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To: johnnycap
"Obama has press secretary Gibbs.” lol Yeah, but Obama, being Obama, doesn't give Gibbs much to work with, does he?
45 posted on 04/14/2009 1:59:44 AM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: Scanian

I guess this incident is just about one step down from Rove calling Biden a “lying sack of s**t.” Which he is...

Mark


46 posted on 04/14/2009 2:03:56 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: carumba

Butt Butt Butt what if your first language is Klingon?


47 posted on 04/14/2009 3:03:20 AM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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To: spyone

I think you just made that up about Bush’s “expecting the same treatment.”


48 posted on 04/14/2009 8:04:36 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Pelham
You have a very active imagination.

But what you said is pretty dumb. There can be no greater chasm between two men than the one between George W. Bush and Barack Obama.

That fact is playing itself out every day. And you seem to be oblivious to it.

49 posted on 04/14/2009 8:08:29 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: bray
Amen, bray!

Anyone still fighting President Bush is neglecting the real enemy. They are not on our side of the fight.

With all that is at stake, I pray they wake up and turn their anger against the socialist usurper in the WH, and not the fine man who is at home in Texas.

50 posted on 04/14/2009 8:11:16 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

How many years are these clowns going to blame Bush for everything. They are worse than leftists since they should quit wasting our time w/their chest pounding Bush isn’t a real conservative like me routine.

Pray for America, Our Troops and the Tea Parties


51 posted on 04/14/2009 10:21:48 PM PDT by bray (Join the Rebel Republican Movement!)
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To: bray
The question for me has always been, why would anyone calling himself a conservative hate President Bush in the first place? And why now, with a lying Marxist in the White House would they still be griping about a man of deep integrity who was not conservative enough for them?

How can they, at this point in time, ignore the stellar SC Justices and federal judges? How can they despise the strongest pro-life and pro-military President we've ever had? How can they hate the most consistent tax cutting President we've ever had?

Of course President Bush did not please conservatives at every turn. Most of us disagreed with his immigration stand (Reagan's as well). Most of us were upset with CFR. But weighed in the balance, he accomplished much for conservatism, and that is an undeniable fact.

The bottom line for me is that conservatives who are still blaming Bush for everything are phonies. ALL real conservatives are in horror at watching our Constitution being shredded, our sovereignty removed, our money stolen, having a CinC who hates our military, and a man in the WH who lies literally with every breath.

NO real conservative is more concerned about President Bush's "imperfection" than the real threat to our nation in the White House.

btw, Happy TEA PARTY DAY, bray!

52 posted on 04/15/2009 7:05:52 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

Well, well, look who wandered back from SoundAsleeps. And still too drunk on W koolaid to see the world as it is. Can Howlin be far behind?


53 posted on 04/15/2009 10:37:24 AM PDT by Pelham (America, an extinct culture formerly occupying Mexifornia and New Aztlan.)
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To: Pelham
Thanks for the welcome back. (Only I'm not back, just passing through).

I know how much you've missed an intelligent, rational voice over the past two years, so I thought I'd post once in a while and raise your IQ. ;)

54 posted on 04/15/2009 10:49:50 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Pelham
btw, I'm going to and helping at a TEA Party this afternoon. Are you?

Or is your conservative 'activism' limited to insulting patriots like me?

55 posted on 04/15/2009 10:52:07 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

On this Tax Day we need to celebrate politicians whose compassion forces us to pay for everybody else. Today’s generous hero is none other than George W Bush, ladling out free taxpayer money so that a particular minority wouldn’t have to come up with their own down payment, unlike the rest of us. Thanks, George, for handing out our money so that you could suck up to your target audience; the speech was given at the White House Conference on Increasing Minority Homeownership, Oct 15, 2002:

THE PRESIDENT: …. I appreciate your attendance to this very important conference. You see, we want everybody in America to own their own home. That’s what we want. This is — an ownership society is a compassionate society.

More and more people own their homes in America today. Two-thirds of all Americans own their homes, yet we have a problem here in America because few than half of the Hispanics and half the African Americans own the home. That’s a homeownership gap. It’s a — it’s a gap that we’ve got to work together to close for the good of our country, for the sake of a more hopeful future.

We’ve got to work to knock down the barriers that have created a homeownership gap.

I set an ambitious goal. It’s one that I believe we can achieve. It’s a clear goal, that by the end of this decade we’ll increase the number of minority homeowners by at least 5.5 million families. (Applause.) … And it’s going to require a strong commitment from those of you involved in the housing industry. …

I appreciate so very much the home owners who are with us today, the Arias family, newly arrived from Peru. They live in Baltimore. Thanks to the Association of Real Estate Brokers, the help of some good folks in Baltimore, they figured out how to purchase their own home. Imagine to be coming to our country without a home, with a simple dream. And now they’re on stage here at this conference being one of the new home owners in the greatest land on the face of the Earth. I appreciate the Arias family coming. (Applause.)

We’ve got the Horton family from Little Rock, Arkansas, here today. … They were helped by HUD, they were helped by Freddie Mac. …

Finally, Kim Berry from New York is here. She’s a single mom. You’re not going to believe this, but her son is 18 years old. (Laughter.) She barely looked like she was 18 to me. And being a single mom is the hardest job in America. And the idea of this fine American working hard to provide for her child, at the same time working hard to realize her dream, which is owning a home on Long Island, is really a special tribute to the character of this particular person and to the character of a lot of Americans. So we’re honored to have you here, Kim, and thanks for being such a good mom and a fine American. (Applause.)

I told Mel Martinez I was serious about this initiative… And the good news is, Mel Martinez believes it and means it, as well. He’s doing a fine job of running HUD, and I’m glad he has joined my Cabinet. (Applause.)

And I picked a pretty spunky deputy, as well, Alphonso Jackson — my fellow Texan. (Applause.) I call him A.J. …

I see Rosario Marin, who’s the Treasurer of the United States. Rosario used to be a mayor. Thank you for coming, Madam Mayor. (Applause.) She understands how important housing is. …

All of us here in America should believe, and I think we do, that we should be, as I mentioned, a nation of owners. Owning something is freedom, as far as I’m concerned. It’s part of a free society. And ownership of a home helps bring stability to neighborhoods. You own your home in a neighborhood, you have more interest in how your neighborhood feels, looks, whether it’s safe or not. It brings pride to people, it’s a part of an asset-based to society. It helps people build up their own individual portfolio, provides an opportunity, if need be, for a mom or a dad to leave something to their child. It’s a part of — it’s of being a — it’s a part of — an important part of America.

Homeownership is also an important part of our economic vitality. If — when we meet this project, this goal, according to our Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, we will have added an additional $256 billion to the economy by encouraging 5.5 million new home owners in America; …

Low interest rates, low inflation are very important foundations for economic growth. The idea of encouraging new homeownership and the money that will be circulated as a result of people purchasing homes will mean people are more likely to find a job in America. This project not only is good for the soul of the country, it’s good for the pocketbook of the country, as well.

To open up the doors of homeownership there are some barriers, and I want to talk about four that need to be overcome. First, down payments. A lot of folks can’t make a down payment. They may be qualified. They may desire to buy a home, but they don’t have the money to make a down payment. I think if you were to talk to a lot of families that are desirous to have a home, they would tell you that the down payment is the hurdle that they can’t cross. And one way to address that is to have the federal government participate.

And so we’ve called upon Congress to set up what’s called the American Dream Down Payment Fund, which will provide financial grants to local governments to help first-time home buyers who qualify to make the down payment on their home. If a down payment is a problem, there’s a way we can address that. And when Congress funds the program, this should help 200,000 new families over the next five years become first-time home buyers.

Secondly, affordable housing is a problem in many neighborhoods, particularly inner-city neighborhoods. … I’m doing is proposing a single-family affordable housing credit to encourage the construction of single-family homes in neighborhoods where affordable housing is scarce. (Applause.)

Over the next five years the initiative will provide home builders and therefore home buyers with — home builders with $2 billion in tax credits to bring affordable homes and therefore provide an additional supply for home buyers. …

And we’ve got to set priorities. And one of the key priorities is going to be inner-city America. …

Another obstacle to minority homeownership is the lack of information. You know, getting into your own home can be complicated. It can be a difficult process. I had that very same problem. (Laughter and applause.)

Every home buyer has responsibilities and rights that need to be understood clearly. And yet, when you look at some of the contracts, there’s a lot of small print. And you can imagine somebody newly arrived from Peru looking at all that print, and saying, I’m not sure I can possibly understand that. Why do I want to buy a home? There’s an educational process that needs to go on, not only to explain the contract, explain obligation, but also to explain financing options, to help people understand the complexities of a homeownership market, and also at the same time to protect people from unscrupulous lenders, people who would take advantage of a good-hearted soul who is trying to realize their dream.

Homeownership education is critical. And so today, I’m pleased to announce that through Mel’s office, we’re going to distribute $35 million in 2003 to more than 100 national, state and local organizations that promote homeownership through buyer education. (Applause.)

And, of course, one of the larger obstacles to minority homeownership is financing, is the ability to have their dream financed. Right now, we have a program that all of you are familiar with, maybe our fellow Americans are, and that’s what they call a Section 8 housing program, that provides billions of dollars in vouchers to help low-income Americans with their rent. It encourages leasing. We think it’s important that we use those vouchers, that federal money to help low-income Americans go from being somebody who leases to somebody who owns; that we use the Section 8 program to not only help with down payment, but to help with continuing monthly mortgage payments after they’re into their new home. It is a — it is a way to help us meet this dream of 5.5 million additional families owning their home.

I’m also going to encourage the lending industry to develop a mortgage market so that this script, these vouchers, can regularly be used as a source of payment to provide more capital to lenders, who can then help more families move from rental housing into houses of their own. …

Last June, I issued a challenge to everyone involved in the housing industry to help increase the number of minority families to be home owners. And what I’m talking about, I’m talking about your bankers and your brokers and developers, as well as members of faith-based community and community programs. And the response to the home owners challenge has been very strong and very gratifying. Twenty-two public and private partners have signed up to help meet our national goal. Partners in the mortgage finance industry are encouraging homeownership by purchasing more loans made by banks to African Americans, Hispanics and other minorities.

Representatives of the real estate and homebuilding industries, through their nationwide networks or affiliates, are committed to broadening homeownership. They made the commitment to help meet the national goal we set.

Freddie Mae — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — I see the heads who are here; I want to thank you all for coming — (laughter) — have committed to provide more money for lenders. They’ve committed to help meet the shortage of capital available for minority home buyers.

Fannie Mae recently announced a $50 million program to develop 600 homes for the Cherokee Nation in Oklahoma. Franklin [Raines], I appreciate that commitment. They also announced $12.7 million investment in a condominium project in Harlem. It’s the beginnings of a series of initiatives to help meet the goal of 5.5 million families. Franklin told me at the meeting where we kicked this office, he said, I promise you we will help, and he has, like many others in this room have done.

Freddie Mac recently began 25 initiatives around the country to dismantle barriers and create greater opportunities for homeownership. One of the programs is designed to help deserving families who have bad credit histories to qualify for homeownership loans. …

There’s all kinds of ways that we can work together to meet the goal. Corporate America has a responsibility to work to make America a compassionate place. Corporate America has responded. As an example — only one of many examples — the good folks at Sears and Roebuck have responded by making a five-year, $100 million commitment to making homeownership and home maintenance possible for millions of Americans. …

The non-profit groups are bringing homeownership to some of our most troubled communities. …

The other thing Kirbyjon told me, which I really appreciate, is you don’t have to have a lousy home for first-time home buyers. If you put your mind to it, the first-time home buyer, the low-income home buyer can have just as nice a house as anybody else. And I know Kirbyjon. He is what I call a social entrepreneur who is using his platform as a Methodist preacher to improve the neighborhood and the community in which he lives.

And so is Luis Cortes, who represents Nueva Esperanza in Philadelphia. I went to see Luis in the inner-city Philadelphia. … But he also understood that a homeownership program is incredibly important to revitalize this neighborhood that a lot of folks had already quit on. …

Again, I want to tell you, this is an initiative — as Mel will tell you, it’s an initiative that we take very seriously. … Thank you for coming. May God bless your vision. May God bless America. (Applause.)


56 posted on 04/15/2009 11:52:34 AM PDT by Pelham (America, an extinct culture formerly occupying Mexifornia and New Aztlan.)
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To: Pelham
So ---- I went to an AWESOME Tea Party this afternoon. Helped sign people up, mingled with fellow patriots, tossed a few tea bags, stood strong for America, joined with hundreds of thousands of other Americans across the country in protesting peacefully against socialism, massive increases in spending, the government's stealing our resources and our freedom.....

And you, Pelham? Stayed at home, did you?

I thought so. :)

57 posted on 04/15/2009 5:27:21 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

I worked, something you should try when you aren’t out playing.


58 posted on 04/15/2009 7:48:28 PM PDT by Pelham (America, an extinct culture formerly occupying Mexifornia and New Aztlan.)
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To: Pelham
LOL! My husband works, but he was there because he's a patriot.

You were just too busy looking up anti-Bush material to be an AMERICAN today.

Thanks for not caring.

59 posted on 04/15/2009 8:11:15 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan
Just for the record for those who are not brain-dead, I have two jobs, as well as volunteer work.

Not that the truth matters to the weasels around here.

60 posted on 04/15/2009 8:13:34 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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