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1 posted on 03/31/2009 1:21:25 PM PDT by prismsinc
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no it’s not.


2 posted on 03/31/2009 1:22:19 PM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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Unfortunately, most of today’s Catholics went through the Marxist government school system and then attended heavily Marxist colleges while reading Marxist newspapers and watching Marxist television and enjoying the movies and music of Marxist entertainers.

How does one hour per week in Church compete with that?


3 posted on 03/31/2009 1:25:36 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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And do these so called Catholics who support abortion go to Church? I don’t think so and I don’t call them Catholic either.


4 posted on 03/31/2009 1:25:51 PM PDT by SouthCarolinaKit
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I suspect if you survey the Catholics who abide by their Sunday obligation, you will get vastly different results than by merely surveying anyone who identifies themselves as Catholic. There are CINOs just like there are RINOs.
8 posted on 03/31/2009 1:32:19 PM PDT by Heartland Mom ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." - Ronald Reagan)
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a Gallup analysis finds almost no difference between rank-and-file American Catholics and American non-Catholics in terms of finding the two issues morally acceptable.

Then they're not Catholics.

9 posted on 03/31/2009 1:33:11 PM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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Then they are not Catholics. They’re not Wildebeestes either, but they can call themselves that, too.


11 posted on 03/31/2009 1:36:37 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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Good thing the Church isn’t a democracy.


14 posted on 03/31/2009 1:38:59 PM PDT by Antoninus (So now "change" is defined as "more of the same, but worse"?)
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Here's the chart from the story:


17 posted on 03/31/2009 1:42:32 PM PDT by reegs
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Who wants to talk to STUPID and IMMORAL people that haven’t a CLUE what their religion means?


20 posted on 03/31/2009 1:45:34 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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“The stance of the Catholic church on moral issues has come into the spotlight in recent days with the announcement that President Barack Obama will be giving the commencement address and receiving an honorary degree at the University of Notre Dame in May.”

How many Catholics supported Obama’s stance on denying aid to babies that survive abortion and are born alive, living for hours gasping for breath in a utility closet?

The man supports baby killing, not just abortion.


21 posted on 03/31/2009 1:46:39 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Pres Obama just spent $150million of the $160million in returned AIG bonuses on a trip to England.)
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Probably same on shacking up also.


22 posted on 03/31/2009 1:48:29 PM PDT by ex-snook ( "Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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I’m astounded that anyone calling themselves Catholic could in find embryonic stem cell research and abortion acceptable. If this poll is true, it proves most Catholics are twice-a-year-to-mass CINO’s. :0(


27 posted on 03/31/2009 1:52:48 PM PDT by RooRoobird20 (1/20/2013: "Change We Can Believe In")
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Dig deeper, COMMITTED Catholics (who attend church once a week) rate abortion as 24% morally acceptable (compared with 52% of non-Committed Catholics). And 19% of COMMITTED Non-Catholics find abortion morally acceptable.

So their sample pool is screwed. It has to be heavily weighted against committed Christians (the numbers more closely resemble the Non-Committeds).

“The data show that regular churchgoing non-Catholics also have very conservative positions on moral issues. In fact, on most of the issues tested, regular churchgoers who are not Catholic are more conservative (i.e., less likely to find a given practice morally acceptable) than Catholic churchgoers.”

“Results are based on telephone interviews with an aggregated sample of 3,022 national adults, aged 18 and older, interviewed in polls conducted in May 2006, May 2007, and May 2008. For results based on the total sample of national adults, one can say with 95% confidence that the maximum margin of sampling error is ±2 percentage points.”


28 posted on 03/31/2009 1:53:50 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Pres Obama just spent $150million of the $160million in returned AIG bonuses on a trip to England.)
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Mainstream? my ass.


31 posted on 03/31/2009 1:56:45 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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...on most of the issues tested, regular churchgoers who are not Catholic are more conservative (i.e., less likely to find a given practice morally acceptable) than Catholic churchgoers.”

This matches the exit poll numbers for the 2008 Presidential election.

32 posted on 03/31/2009 1:59:08 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Presbyterians often forget that John Knox had been a Sunday bowler.)
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Was there a distinction made between church-attending and non-attending Catholics? I doubt it.


35 posted on 03/31/2009 2:02:13 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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I would like to see the actual questons and the order in which they were read, rather than a summary of the results. To me, for example, out of wedlock births are morally acceptable if the alternative is abortion. Also, I suspect that many Catholics will accept abortion as morally justifiable in the event of rape, incest, or substantial risk of death to the mother (only the last counts for me). I also suspect that if asked “do you believe that abortion on demand for any reason or no reason at all is morally acceptable,” the answer among Catholics would be substantially different than what the the Gallup Poll reports.


41 posted on 03/31/2009 2:11:39 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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Part of the liberal spin to soften things up for Obama at Notre Dame. "Hey, Catholics don't mind killing embryos any more than liberals, Protestants, and secular humanists."

43 posted on 03/31/2009 3:00:08 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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Some thoughts:

1. This is Gallup. Who doesn’t take Gallup’s political polls with a very large grain of salt? The same applies to their religious polls.
2. They don’t give the survey questions. I really wish I could see the wording, which Gallup admits can skew the results.
3. I don’t at all believe the results accurately reflect the views of orthodox observant Catholics. More of them in the mix would have tipped the poll right on its a...axis.
4. Sadly, whether any of us like admitting it, orthodox and observant Catholics are a minority in our own Church. God help us.


50 posted on 03/31/2009 5:22:19 PM PDT by Lorica
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I’m thinking this means that folks don’t know the difference between embryonic stem cells and adult stem cells.


53 posted on 04/01/2009 7:06:56 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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