Posted on 03/29/2009 2:35:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
I understand there is a new anti-freeper site started by disgruntled former and present Mormon FReepers and it is their intention of bankrupting FR during the coming Freepathon by withholding their donations and disrupting our activities. Well, all I can say is, if they feel that badly against FR, by all means they should withhold their donations and drop out of FR. But it they attempt to disrupt our operations I will guarantee they will no longer be members of FR. If that is their wish, so be it.
I'm not going to try to defend FR from their claims of religious persecution, but I will say that Mormons have and always have had free reign to post their threads on FR just as all other religious groups have enjoyed. Free Republic defends the right to freedom of religion and has always welcomed religious discussion and always will. And Mormons have always been welcome here. I have absolutely nothing against Mormons.
If you are one who has left or is leaving, I wish you well, but disruption of FR is not welcome and will not be tolerated.
And this is not the first time such activity has been attempted by groups of disgruntled former FReepers. Good luck with that. There is always some group that feels FR should be bent to their way of thinking and end up saying my way or the highway. Well, I don't know about you, but I'm not changing so I guess it's the highway. Is it Feb 8 yet?
God bless.
And what did you choose?
The teachings of the God of the Bible, or the teachings of a man who became a god?
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I choose the teachings of a loving Father that uses the family to teach us how we will live in the life after this life.
Just answer the questions.
As this thread shows: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2013341/posts
I left over 10 years ago, gladly. And I found salvation in Jesus Christ alone shortly thereafter.
Please see my tagline.
If ‘outsiders’ read it, is it not true?
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It is the writings of many outsiders that deceive you.
If you can see how P-Marlowe made a statement that was not true and then tried to make me defend his made up statement, you will be able to see through many other writings about the teachings of this Church's teachings.
Whew, must be hot to wear in the summer!
They are.
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You need to show me where Brother Smith taught that God never progressed from what we are today before you can show that you are not deceiving others with your teachings.
Roy, you are a liar.
You refuse to answer my questions and then lie about it.
You refuse to answer my questions because you don't want to admit either that Joseph Smith was a false prophet or that he was telling the truth and you want to hide the truth -- not cast your pearls among the swine.
Everyone can see through you Roy. I used to think you were just deceived, but now I know you are a deliberate liar.
So is it the God of the Bible that teaches the family how to teach you how you will live in the life after this life?
You say "a loving Father."
Do you mean the loving Father, the God of the Bible?
Or is it a loving father, who now is a god, but used to be a man?
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I can just repeat the evidence of what you said here. You made an untrue statement about what I teach, then you want me to defend your untruth as if it were my truth.
I repeat the above question.
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Joseph Smith taught that he IS.
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You need to show me where Brother Smith taught that God never progressed from what we are today before you can show that you are not deceiving others with your teachings.
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Because I call you on your deception, you try to divert attention from your own doings to mine.
A classic way not to have to face the truth.
We all face ultimate accountability before a Pure Judge. We’ll either claim His Son’s shed blood as the rite of passage to remain in His presence, or we’ll hold on to a no-go substitute. That is why we need to work together at most costs — but not all costs. There’s something coming that transcends this world and its conflicts.
Worth repeating.
Your alleged experiences w/ Bishops is so far removed from the reality that I know that it's quite hard to fathom. It's not hard to believe that there may be isolated cases of a bad apple Bishop out there, but your term “many” leads me to question the authenticity of your assertion. Your posts in the past have lead me to question your understanding of the church, so this comes as no surprise.
I would think that many non LDS here who have had interactions w/ Bishops & other LDS alike would have a substantially different take than the one you portray, as has been stated just in this thread. My best wishes for peace in your life & a humble heart.
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Now you play the “everyone” line.
Did you miss anything in trying to divert attention from your misteaching of our doctrine?
I am really annoyed by this fram and spam group because of their misguided selfish interest they have really set back out goodwill here on FR.
And yes, I believe you are following one of the teachings of some good man who studied the bible and got a different answer from another good man who also studied the Bible.
Yes, answer the question.You must be severely blinded spiritually to twist and distort my word to you like that.
Come on, many of us have read it in the writings of your Prophets.If ‘outsiders’ read it, is it not true?
+++++++It is the writings of many outsiders that deceive you.
If you can see how P-Marlowe made a statement that was not true and then tried to make me defend his made up statement, you will be able to see through many other writings about the teachings of this Church's teachings.
I am talking about the words of YOUR Prophets.
Please do not continue to refer to them as "outsiders" or admit now that you don't believe them.
I do not rely on the words of what you call "outsiders", I refer to the words of your own organization.
OK, hopefully you understand that I can see the deception that you expect me to accept.
P-Marlowe did NOT make a statement that was not true, he quoted it from the writings of the people that you revere as prophets.
You stating that what P-Marlowe said is a lie is the same as saying that what your prophets said is a lie.
So you see that now?
What I am 'seeing through' now is the teachings of your Church, and apparantly you are too.
So now, answer the question, OK?
It is like a bunch of pals in a bar (OK, so bars are out for our Mormon friends but you get the point..) fighting over whatever.. but whatever happens, we all walk away from that ‘fight’ and are still all friends.
I think for the most part that is true. I really like Resty and OMM even if I completely disagree with their theology.
And I keep them (and Fred and freeplancer) in my prayers every night.
It is you that has been deceiving, and it's been proven.To: P-MarloweYou refuse to answer my questions because you don't want to admit either that Joseph Smith was a false prophet or that he was telling the truth and you want to hide the truth — not cast your pearls among the swine.+++++++++++
Because I call you on your deception, you try to divert attention from your own doings to mine.
Here's your quote back at you:
A classic way not to have to face the truth.
P-Marlowe did not deceive, he quoted from the writings of the LDS church.
So if he deceive, he did it with your sacred scriptures.
Now do you believe them or not?
Or are they not true because an 'outsider' quoted them?
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