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House to vote on 90 percent tax for AIG bonuses
AP ^ | 03192009 | STEPHEN OHLEMACHER

Posted on 03/19/2009 6:57:28 AM PDT by EBH

Edited on 03/19/2009 7:34:42 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aig; aigbonuses; billofattainder; congressionaltyranny; fascism; taxes; taxincrease; taxincreases; yourtaxdollarsatwork
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To: waxer1
Amplification:

"This is an Unconstitutional bill of attainder"

161 posted on 03/19/2009 9:36:43 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (A trillion here, a trillion there, and pretty soon you are talking about Zimbabwe money.)
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To: All

They debated this, then postponed(I think?), and when will the real vote take place?


162 posted on 03/19/2009 9:39:36 AM PDT by EBH (The world is a balance between good & evil, your next choice will tip the scale.)
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To: Myrddin

Thanks again. This is definitely a multi-pronged effort to destroy our capitalist system and neutralize the checks and balances within our government itself. Did you see the proposed law to give power to the Sec. of the Treasury to assume control of financial institutions IT deems “risky”? Another direct assault. These Commies are pushing for pure and complete government control (nationalization) of our economy and all means of production. It doesn’t surprise me, but it does surprise me they are acting so quickly. I guess Rahm really meant it when he said let no good crises go to waste.

The “tin-foil” part of me really wonders if this wasn’t the whole plan in the first place, and if this “crisis” wasn’t “concocted” in some way by the “movers and shakers” in our world who are partial to communism (because THEY would have control then).


163 posted on 03/19/2009 9:44:21 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Myrddin

It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if we see a form of this happening in our own country sooner vs. later... We should all be prepared for that possibility, I fear.


164 posted on 03/19/2009 9:45:51 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: I'm ALL Right!

I’m not glad about it, except that it’s our money—bonus money to Fannie, Freddie, AIG—it’s all our money. Those bonuses were not earned income. It’s not the same thing as someone working 40 hours and getting paid for 40 hours. Bonuses are completely arbitrary, based on nothing usually.

Here’s what I mean: If the government is going to be punitive, let’s see them be punitive across the board—not protecting their pet projects (like Fannie and Freddie) from punishment, as is usually their case. That’s all I meant. I’m sick of them calling the kettle black when they’re all boiling in the witch’s pot themselves. I’m sick of them throwing a fit over this piddly amount of money in comparison to the trillion they’ve wasted in the stimulus. I was only glad to see that they didn’t continue to finger point about the AIG bonuses and completely ignore the Fannie and Freddie bonuses.

I’m also glad that they’re getting spanked because of their failure to be thorough and actually READ the spendulus porkulus package before they all signed on. The back pedaling is actually pretty entertaining.


165 posted on 03/19/2009 9:46:57 AM PDT by erkyl (The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in a period of moral crisis, stay neutral)
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To: erkyl
I’m not glad about it, except that it’s our money—bonus money to Fannie, Freddie, AIG—it’s all our money.

No actually it's not. It belongs to those citizens that received the bonuses. Once $$ changes hands possession and the legal protections ON that money change.

If people don't like it then use regulatory power differently.

This is no different than a bill of attainder.

166 posted on 03/19/2009 9:50:51 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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To: All

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.1586:

Bill text


167 posted on 03/19/2009 9:55:00 AM PDT by EBH (The world is a balance between good & evil, your next choice will tip the scale.)
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To: EBH

111th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 1586
To impose an additional tax on bonuses received from certain TARP recipients.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

March 18, 2009
Mr. RANGEL (for himself, Mr. ISRAEL, Mr. PETERS, Mrs. MALONEY, Mr. STARK, Mr. LEVIN, Mr. LEWIS of Georgia, Mr. TANNER, Mr. POMEROY, Mr. THOMPSON of California, Mr. LARSON of Connecticut, Mr. BLUMENAUER, Mr. PASCRELL, Ms. BERKLEY, Mr. VAN HOLLEN, Mr. MEEK of Florida, Mr. DAVIS of Alabama, Mr. DAVIS of Illinois, Mr. ETHERIDGE, Ms. LINDA T. SANCHEZ of California, Mr. HIGGINS, Mr. YARMUTH, Mr. DINGELL, Mr. CONNOLLY of Virginia, Ms. FUDGE, Mr. LUJAN, Mr. MAFFEI, Mr. PERRIELLO, Mr. CARNEY, Ms. CASTOR of Florida, Ms. CLARKE, Mr. COHEN, Mr. ELLISON, Mr. HALL of New York, Mr. HARE, Mr. KLEIN of Florida, Mr. LOEBSACK, Ms. SCHAKOWSKY, Mr. SIRES, Mr. WELCH, Mr. WILSON of Ohio, Mr. WU, and Mr. HILL) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Ways and Means


A BILL
To impose an additional tax on bonuses received from certain TARP recipients.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. BONUSES RECEIVED FROM CERTAIN TARP RECIPIENTS.

(a) In General- In the case of an employee or former employee of a covered TARP recipient, the tax imposed by chapter 1 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 for any taxable year shall not be less than the sum of—

(1) the tax that would be determined under such chapter if the taxable income of the taxpayer for such taxable year were reduced (but not below zero) by the TARP bonus received by the taxpayer during such taxable year, plus

(2) 90 percent of the TARP bonus received by the taxpayer during such taxable year.

(b) TARP Bonus- For purposes of this section—

(1) IN GENERAL- The term `TARP bonus’ means, with respect to any individual for any taxable year, the lesser of—

(A) the aggregate disqualified bonus payments received from covered TARP recipients during such taxable year, or

(B) the excess of—

(i) the adjusted gross income of the taxpayer for such taxable year, over

(ii) $250,000 ($125,000 in the case of a married individual filing a separate return).

(2) DISQUALIFIED BONUS PAYMENT-

(A) IN GENERAL- The term `disqualified bonus payment’ means any retention payment, incentive payment, or other bonus which is in addition to any amount payable to such individual for service performed by such individual at a regular hourly, daily, weekly, monthly, or similar periodic rate.

(B) EXCEPTIONS- Such term shall not include commissions, welfare or fringe benefits, or expense reimbursements.

(C) WAIVER OR RETURN OF PAYMENTS- Such term shall not include any amount if the employee irrevocably waives the employee’s entitlement to such payment, or the employee returns such payment to the employer, before the close of the taxable year in which such payment is due. The preceding sentence shall not apply if the employee receives any benefit from the employer in connection with the waiver or return of such payment.

(3) REIMBURSEMENT OF TAX TREATED AS TARP BONUS- Any reimbursement by a covered TARP recipient of the tax imposed under subsection (a) shall be treated as a disqualified bonus payment to the taxpayer liable for such tax.

(c) Covered TARP Recipient- For purposes of this section—

(1) IN GENERAL- The term `covered TARP recipient’ means—

(A) any person who receives after December 31, 2007, capital infusions under the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 which, in the aggregate, exceed $5,000,000,000,

(B) the Federal National Mortgage Association and the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation,

(C) any person who is a member of the same affiliated group (as defined in section 1504 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, determined without regard to paragraphs (2) and (3) of subsection (b)) as a person described in subparagraph (A) or (B), and

(D) any partnership if more than 50 percent of the capital or profits interests of such partnership are owned directly or indirectly by one or more persons described in subparagraph (A), (B), or (C).

(2) EXCEPTION FOR TARP RECIPIENTS WHO REPAY ASSISTANCE- A person shall be treated as described in paragraph (1)(A) for any period only if—

(A) the excess of the aggregate amount of capital infusions described in paragraph (1)(A) with respect to such person over the amounts repaid by such person to the Federal Government with respect to such capital infusions, exceeds

(B) $5,000,000,000.

(d) Other Definitions- Terms used in this section which are also used in the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 shall have the same meaning when used in this section as when used in such Code.

(e) Coordination With Internal Revenue Code of 1986- Any increase in the tax imposed under chapter 1 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 by reason of subsection (a) shall not be treated as a tax imposed by such chapter for purposes of determining the amount of any credit under such chapter or for purposes of section 55 of such Code.

(f) Regulations- The Secretary of the Treasury, or the Secretary’s delegate, shall prescribe such regulations or other guidance as may be necessary or appropriate to carry out the purposes of this section.

(g) Effective Date- This section shall apply to disqualified bonus payments received after December 31, 2008, in taxable years ending after such date.


168 posted on 03/19/2009 9:57:04 AM PDT by EBH (The world is a balance between good & evil, your next choice will tip the scale.)
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To: EBH


I for one welcome our new "HDBA" (Hunting Down Bad Americans) Overlords and can be useful in rounding up the Freepers as soon as this bill passes ... /sarc
169 posted on 03/19/2009 10:00:49 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: skimbell
Our national legislature is intentionally acting in an unconstitutional manner

That being the case does signing this bill constitute an impeachable offense? O is a constitutional scholar after all.

170 posted on 03/19/2009 10:00:58 AM PDT by JrsyJack (ct)
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To: Scythian

News on radio just said vote comes up in about an hour?


171 posted on 03/19/2009 10:02:03 AM PDT by EBH (The world is a balance between good & evil, your next choice will tip the scale.)
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To: EBH

As usual the Democrats waste time at the shredder. The Constitution is already dead, Boys.


172 posted on 03/19/2009 10:03:24 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: VOR78
I couldn’t care less what happens to AIG, mind you, but it sets a terrible precedent. Plus, I’m pretty sure that selectively targeting specific individuals for taxation is ILLEGAL. Unfortunately, none of this surprises me given the current occupant of the WH.

Saul Alinsky in practice. Make AIG the villain and pass legislation to "fix" the problem. Only trouble is the "fix" is usually worse than the problem.

173 posted on 03/19/2009 10:03:52 AM PDT by JrsyJack (ct)
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To: JrsyJack
My blood pressure is rising. These people are so full of it.
174 posted on 03/19/2009 10:07:02 AM PDT by Califreak (1/20/13-Sunrise in America)
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To: EBH


From FoxNews, see their home page, they are helping our Government set this most important precident for our future, only the future isn't so bright ... Why aren't they warning people about this? Not a word about equal treatment under the law, nothing?
175 posted on 03/19/2009 10:17:06 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Califreak
They are back at it again.

Retention bonuses are a form of exhortation—B. Frank

176 posted on 03/19/2009 10:17:51 AM PDT by EBH (The world is a balance between good & evil, your next choice will tip the scale.)
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To: Scythian

http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN_wm.aspx


177 posted on 03/19/2009 10:19:19 AM PDT by EBH (The world is a balance between good & evil, your next choice will tip the scale.)
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To: EBH

I’m off to get dry toast and tea before the projectile vomiting starts.


178 posted on 03/19/2009 10:21:08 AM PDT by Califreak (1/20/13-Sunrise in America)
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To: erkyl

Wow- you’re clueless AND ignorant


179 posted on 03/19/2009 10:24:06 AM PDT by NYC Republican (This Too Shall Pass- in 8 years.. how much destruction will they create?)
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To: Califreak

Bachus(R)— Alabama

Legislation provides cover to democrats in congress.


180 posted on 03/19/2009 10:25:13 AM PDT by EBH (The world is a balance between good & evil, your next choice will tip the scale.)
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