Posted on 03/19/2009 3:34:51 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
"What kind of revolution appeals most to you?" read the now-deleted poll question on Sean Hannity's message board: "Military Coup, Armed Rebellion, or War for Secession?"
The next four to eight years are gonna be some fun!
Barely two months into the Obama administration, wing-nuts across the land are frothing at the mouth, talking feverishly of secession, violent revolution, tax revolt, "going Galt," and national divorce. It would be hilarious if it weren't so creepy.
We all had a good laugh this past December when Igor Panarin, dean of the Russian Foreign Ministry's academy for future diplomats, predicted that the financial crisis would eventually lead to widespread unrest, martial law, and, by 2010, a civil war in the US — the end result of which would be a motley collection of rump states like "Atlantic America" and the "Texas Republic," that then glom onto countries such as Canada and Mexico. It's an absurd idea.
Or is it? Perusing some of the sheer insanity spewed on rightist blogs, message boards, and comment threads — the pitchfork-shaking anger directed at this so-called socialist government — one has to wonder just what's percolating in this country. Maybe the big break-up is coming sooner than we think?
Obama talks a lot about his affinity for Abraham Lincoln. Let's just hope he doesn't end up having too much in common with the guy — that in addition to saving the economy, winning two wars, and curbing global warming, he doesn't find himself having to preserve the Union, too.
People are pissed. New faux-populist hero Rick Santelli has been enjoining citizens to register their disgust with the stimulus plan and budget by bombarding the White House and Capitol with tea bags — get it?! (The phenomenon has apparently caused headaches for workers charged with the safety screening of DC mail.) Meanwhile, 4000 people gathered this past Saturday for a so-called "Cincinnati Tea Party." Read one sign: HONK IF I'M PAYING YOUR MORTGAGE.
But protests do only so much. More and more, it seems, nothing less than outright secession will satisfy some of these cranks. The right-wing Web is all atwitter over a recent open letter, spreading from blog to blog like a hanta virus, by one "John J. Wall, Law Student and an American." In it, Wall puts it plainly: he wants a divorce.
"Let's just end it on friendly terms," he writes. "We don't like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. . . . Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA, and the military." (What they'll do with all the guns he doesn't say.)
Ironically, when not busy fomenting revolution or concocting a plan to carve up the continental US, conservatives act a lot like the "hippies" that Wall went on to lambaste in his letter — thumbing their nose at authority and threatening to drop out of society.
It was reported on military.com last month that a soldier, First Lieutenant Scott Easterling, who is stationed in Iraq, has balked at following orders: "Until Mr. Obama releases a 'vault copy' of his original birth certificate for public review," he declared, "I will consider him neither my commander in chief nor my president, but rather, a usurper to the office — an impostor."
And the latest bit of in(s)anity making the rounds in conservative circles in is the notion of "going Galt," in which angry rich people protest Obama's fiscal policies by following the lead of John Galt —übermensch protagonist of Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged — and removing their ostensibly valuable productivity from society.
Why? Because "a general strike among the wealth producers," as Michelle Malkin calls it, will help keep that wealth out of the grubby hands of the lower classes — those "moochers who claim your product by tears," in Rand's piquant description. Sigh.
Are we fated to fracture into Jesus Land and the People's Republic of Massafornia? Probably not. But maybe! Until and unless that day arrives, however, ours remains a riven nation. But if Malkin and their ilk want to "drop out" in the meantime, more power to 'em. It'll be nice, frankly, not to have to hear them talk for a while.
I believe that 2004 was the last relatively fraud free election we will see unless Acorn can be done away with. Does anyone not believe that the billions of our tax dollars they got will not go for as many democrats votes as possible, honestly or dishonestly. The voter rolls will be bloated with fraudulent votes for the dems.
Executive summary: There exists an acceptable gap between a society's expectations (physical and ephemeral) and the reality . . . sounds an awful lot like PIL's famous tune: "this is what you want, this is what you get." When that gap gets too large, i.e., unacceptable, the shit hits the fan by way of revolution.
Personally, I think that gap is expanding quite rapidly . . . perhaps exponentially so, given the economic situation.
LLS
We are not thinking of leaving, we are thinking of purging. The loyalists who supported the King are now in control of Massachuttes. Massachuttes must be purged from the union. It is no longer America. It is Europe.
This is were I always get confused. Personally I don't want anything from government except provide for the common defense. What should anyone expect from society? Maybe it should be why does anyone expect anything from society? Society is a result, not a cause. Isn't it?
I though they had islam problems in the Philippines?
You're thinking about it too specifically---think more 100,000-foot level. Like your ability to work, to provide for your family, to put food on your table, to have a beer or a nice glass of bourbon when you want, etc., etc. "What you expect" for your human existence, in other words.
I could essentially do all those things living in a cave away from "society". Still confused...
Right. It's not a matter of society's ability to provide you with these things--don't get hung up on that. It's more of a matter of society preventing you from doing, or impeding your ability to get, these things. That is the delta, or gap, if you will, between the two lines on the graph. When that delta gets too big for a statistically significant number of people, or certain ultra-important elements of society (i.e., the elites), revolution ensues.
I might go along with it as I changed it above.....
I have read that he liked to drink. Just never knew which brand.
Only in remote Southern islands. The bulk of the islands are almost 100% Roman Catholic.
With all due respect, I don’t think you appreciate how far this has gone and will go.
I have an article about it saved in my favorites file.
He doesn't pay taxes. No Democrats pay taxes. Just look at Obama’s nominees. Taxes are only paid by us losers in Jesusland. We will be sent to work in labor camps if we refuse to pay all our income in taxes however.
Thanks for the facts. Sounds pretty good.
LOL, “the Boston Phoenix”...
...Where last year’s scribblers for the Daily Collegian go to have a circle jerk with themselves.
You invoked heaven. Wikipedia New England Pine Tree Flag Appeal to Heaven and you will see your essay, transported intact back in time, to the Massachusetts Navy, the USS Hannah, the Maine Navy.
The quote 'appeal to Heaven' refers to a passage by Locke in one of his essays, to the effect that if appealing to these communists to desist and let us have our country back, doesn't work, then, we will appeal to Heaven to justify whatever steps, violent or otherwise, are needed.
Our FFs went through all this weighing and doubting... and condensed it and documented it in the Declaration.
Now it makes perfect sense to you, does it not?
Consider you've got a president who wants to take fully half or more of our earnings money and fund infanticide worldwide, and force health care workers to commit abortion or lose their jobs, and that is just one thing he has done: that's just him getting warmed up after the Inauguration.
Just when do you think it is time to pull the pin? Will it ever be time, in your view?
Do you think people like Barney and Nancy and Barry are going to agree with us and start leaving us alone?
If you do, you are delusional.
yes we are getting aweful close when we, like they must be willing to sacrifice all for the sake of liberty..however I don’t wan’t to the one to pull the trigger finger first, I don’t want to “start a war” against fellow Americans, I would only be willing to defend my community/state/nation against tyrants which have violated our Constitution and our citizens, blantly. We should be careful..where this goes. DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. Do you agree (we don’t just want a “mob” decending on Washington, or fellow neighbors looting each-other (who knows in the Chaos you or I might be targeted!). IF (and I say a big “if”) this crisis becomes a second American Revolution I say we make it in the spirit of Heaven and our Founding Fathers did, and not the “French Revolution”..wouldn’t you agree!!..?
Repeating myself; I guess when/if we are all standing in line in the pouring rain confined to a barbed wire compound waiting for a cup of fish eye soup, would that be the right time to consider non-politcal "tactics"?
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