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Please, just leave: Right-wing crackpots plot to abandon the union (says we're the problem)
The Boston Phoenix ^ | March 18, 2009 | Mike Milliard

Posted on 03/19/2009 3:34:51 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: ohioman
As one of the biggest liberal, guilt-ridden Southerners on FR, I am not surprised to see this come from you. You never direct your venom at the left and instead choose to deride those of us on the right.

I never direct venom to the left?! In this very thread in post #30 I call Obama's policies a disaster. In post #59 I call leftist extremists "political idiots" and in post #66 I describe Obama's philosophy as "nonsense". Seems like I've been pretty mean today to those on the other side.

I think most on FR can come to the obvious conclusion that your are at best a moderate - RINO, which is exactly what we do not need to hear right now.

Well, somebody has to hold down the extreme, maybe I am he. Better to be the most moderate member of Free Republic than the most moderate member of Democratic Underground.

121 posted on 03/19/2009 7:30:12 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Pilated
You are whats wrong with our country. There are other countries you would be happier in like Iran, North Korea, Cuba. I am sure they would welcome a smart guy like you. Feel free to leave at any time.

I certainly hope this was misdirected ....

122 posted on 03/19/2009 7:39:38 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

We gave him his chance. He blew it when he signed the stimulous bill. Now we must strive to save the Republic as conceived by whatever means possible.


123 posted on 03/19/2009 7:47:39 AM PDT by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice in these troubled times.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Better to be the most moderate member of Free Republic

I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.

      Barry G.

124 posted on 03/19/2009 7:54:33 AM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: central_va
Yes, "idiotic secession".

Secession, the act of disintegrating and weakening our country, was a terrible and idiotic idea in 1860 and a worse idea in 2009. The Civil war cost America nearly 900,000 lives and opened wounds that didn't heal for over a century. It weakened and damaged our country; all for the greater glory of a bunch of nit whit romantics who couldn't read the Constitution (see Article 1, Section 10).

Secession would weaken each breakaway region. At a time when our largest enemy has over four times our population and people who hate our faith and our freedom control most of the natural resources our economy depends on, dividing ourselves up into petty, competing fiefdoms would be a formula for absolute disaster (see Roman history).

Besides, this IS NOT a regional conflict. Conservatism is an ideology not a place. There are conservative people in every corner of the country, no matter how dominant the leftist may be in that particular area. By alienating those people you weaken the conservative movement (and questioning their loyalty is one sure way to alienate them).

Right now conservatism needs leadership and unity. Idiotic 19th century romantic concepts of sovereignty provide neither.

125 posted on 03/19/2009 7:55:07 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Be There >>> http://www.secondamendmentmarch.com)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Better to be the most moderate member of Free Republic than the most moderate member of Democratic Underground.

I'm with you there, Mr Greenjeans.

126 posted on 03/19/2009 7:56:06 AM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
Besides, this IS NOT a regional conflict. Conservatism is an ideology not a place. There are conservative people in every corner of the country, no matter how dominant the leftist may be in that particular area. By alienating those people you weaken the conservative movement (and questioning their loyalty is one sure way to alienate them).

It doesn't appear regional now. Were copperheads not found all over the North during the Civil War? Conversely, Unionists were all over the South. Whose to say what each individual state legislature(s) would do under duress of civil uprising? I certainly don't know? Would you consider Texas a region? How can you say these things? You have no crystal ball. Maybe you don't want it to be regional, you might be projecting here. I am discussing the theoretical and I envision alot of regionality in this political season we find ourselves in. If you call secessionist idiots what then the Patriot?

127 posted on 03/19/2009 8:12:45 AM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I love it. I absolutely love it.

(PS, The Phoenix is Boston’s “alternative” newspaper. It makes most of its revenue from escort ads and such.)


128 posted on 03/19/2009 8:18:35 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost; InABunkerUnderSF

Interesting that most people here on FR that see nothing regional about the current unpleasant political climate are from CA and the north east region. Odd that. Probably means nothing but...


129 posted on 03/19/2009 8:26:11 AM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: central_va

If the shiite ever goes down, c_va, I know what side I’m going to be on, and it has nothing to do with where I’m from. Regionalism plays no part in it.


130 posted on 03/19/2009 8:41:18 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: jwparkerjr

That’s right. There’s a lot more of us than there is of them. All we have to do is what the left did. take over the schools and judges and legislative.

We need a plan.


131 posted on 03/19/2009 8:41:49 AM PDT by devistate one four (Impatiently waiting for the next tea party! Tet '68)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

“Obama is the legal president,...”

Are you sure about that? Would he be president if ACORN hadn’t been involved in polling place funny business? Would he be president if his place of birth had been verified? He might be the president, but it’s doubtful if he’s the “legal” president.


132 posted on 03/19/2009 8:48:06 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (I feel much better since I gave up hope.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

With the huge taxpayer $$ going to ACORN,
and their in the census.

Don’t count on another legitimate election again without a nationwide “reset event”.


133 posted on 03/19/2009 8:50:01 AM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: MrB

their involvement in the census


134 posted on 03/19/2009 8:50:29 AM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: MrB

“Reset” — yes. It’ll be ugly, but needs to happen to get America back. Not thrilled now with Amerika.


135 posted on 03/19/2009 8:52:39 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (I feel much better since I gave up hope.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
When the nation wakes up to that fact,

When the nation wakes up??

That nation to which you refer is why we are where we are today. They are awake, and like trinkets in exchange for their vote.

With the complicit media, their pablum tastes very good, thank you.

136 posted on 03/19/2009 8:53:07 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

But that is my point - he did not wish a fight, but was bound by honour & duty to fight.
Sure, there are folks on our side spoiling for a fight, there always are, but it is the realization to otherwise peaceful people that a fight is what it will eventually take.
Be it a shooting fight or otherwise - depending on the ballot box (the way it is now stacked)is clearly not working. You may be content to vote for another “lessor of two evils” - but people everywhere are waking up to the fact that it is not a choice we need to make.
Principles were spelled out for us by our founding fathers, and remedies as well. For too long we have been pacified by lying politicians on both sides.


137 posted on 03/19/2009 8:53:07 AM PDT by arrow107
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
If the shiite ever goes down, c_va, I know what side I’m going to be on, and it has nothing to do with where I’m from. Regionalism plays no part in it.

Hypothetically, can you see yourself, and family, leaving your state MA or NH(I think), moving to another state that has formerly seceded?

138 posted on 03/19/2009 8:53:19 AM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
To Quote the idiot:
so-called socialist government

Ever notice that anything the leftards disagree with is “so-called”?

What I don't understand is why those people don't embrace Socialism?

Shouldn't they be Proud of it's past history of failure? /sarc

139 posted on 03/19/2009 8:54:11 AM PDT by GYL2 (Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy Thomas J. (Stonewall) Jackson)
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To: fortunate sun

I’d like to see more buisness give the employees the day off without pay, and explain to the workforce that the situation in DC needs your undivided attention. Just for one day. Employees need to see where the bread comes from. No one likes to miss a payday.


140 posted on 03/19/2009 8:54:43 AM PDT by devistate one four (Impatiently waiting for the next tea party! Tet '68)
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