Posted on 03/14/2009 8:14:23 AM PDT by AJMCQ
Rep. Bill Posey, R-Florida, introduced legislation this week requiring candidates to produce a birth certificate to be eligible to run in future presidential elections, triggering a sharp reaction from Democrats who accused him of "questioning President Obama's citizenship." Posey submitted a bill with no fanfare Thursday that instructs the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to be amended to add the birth certificate requirement. The Constitution requires that a president or a vice president be "a natural born citizen." Read: Posey's bill During the presidential campaign, some people — mostly Republicans — questioned whether Obama, who was born in Hawaii, was a U.S. citizen. Obama's mother was a U.S. citizen, while his father was from Kenya. Obama produced a certified copy of his birth certificate from the Hawaii Department of Health, but critics argued that it was a fake or had been altered. The Supreme Court has turned down several requests that it hear challenges to the president's citizenship. "Opponents of President Bush used the 2000 election results and the court decisions to question the legitimacy of President Bush to serve as President," Posey said in a statement. "Opponents of President Obama are raising the birth certificate issue as a means of questioning his eligibility to serve as president. Neither of these situations are healthy for our Republic. "This bill, by simply requiring such documentation for future candidates for President will remove this issue as a reason for questioning the legitimacy of a candidate elected as President." Posey spokesman George Cecala emphasized several times to CNN that the congressman was "not trying to fan the flames" of the Obama citizenship dust-up nor was he "trying to jab someone in the eye." Instead, Posey was "just trying to clarify the law,"
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I wonder if this is the "Ace in the hole" to get rid of zer0, just in case he turned out to be a total flop and the blatant socialistic takeover of out Country shows massive rejection from the American people, like this was some kind of test to see what they could get away with at this particular time.
Maybe that's tinfoil hat thinking but these people are capable of some diabolical stuff.
Donning flame suit
I stopped reading there. As I understand it, Obama produced an electronic copy of a Certificate of Live Birth, which is apparently different from a Birth Certificate, in spite of the similarity in names.
A brand new website for ‘birthers’:
http://www.birthers.org/OPED/
“Opponents of President Obama are raising the birth certificate issue as a means of questioning his eligibility to serve as president. Neither of these situations are healthy for our Republic.”
But it’s healthy for America to sustain all the harm he’s doing to our country? The Dems have pulled a fast one of the American people and no one can’t do anything about it.
NO BIRTH CERTIFICATE, NO PEACE.
Keep hammering away...death by a thousand paper cuts.
If he's not Constitutionally qualified, are the things he signs law of the land? Is the military legally required to follow his orders?
I suppose if you are a partisan, you can easily feel justified demonizing anyone who calls obama's eligibility into question, but wouldn't you simply like this to go away? Wouldn't you like him to slap down all those who keep raising this question??? He could use the victory right about now.
There is one person who can make this go away and silence those who won't let this go, but he won't. Why is that? Maybe it is because he has something to hide.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2156633/posts
OBAMA HAS NOT MET HIS BURDEN OF PROVING HE WAS BORN IN HI
COLB = “This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.”
Excerpt:
“Prima facie” is a Latin phrase meaning “on its first appearance” or “by first instance.” It is evidence which is adequate, if not invalidated, to confirm a particular intention or fact. It is evidence that is sufficient to raise a presumption of fact or to establish the fact in question unless rebutted. A prima facie case may be insufficient to enable a party to prevail if the opposing party introduces contradictory evidence. In other words, it basically means that on the face of it or on the surface there is enough evidence to prove the alleged fact, unless and until the alleged fact is contradicted.
So many lies/distortions in two sentence.
First, Obama never produced a certified copy of anything. He posted an image of something, and then showed, and allowed to be photographed, something, but only to his Annenberg buddies.
Second, many are not questioning his citizenship, just his "natural born" status, due to his father being a non-citizen, and in fact never being even becoming a citizen, like Chester Arthur's father did, but only when Arther was 14, not before he was born, in Vermont.
Third, while "mostly Republicans" may be true, the most prominent, and one the earliest challenges, is Hillary Democrat Berg.
Still, I'm amazed that CNN would even admit that there is controversy over the matter.
Yes it is, It's the form filled out, usually at and by the hospital but not necessarily so, and signed by a parent, usually the mother, a witness, usually the attending doctor or nurse midwife, and the hospital registar for a hospital birth. However, a "Certification" of live birth is not, which is what the image posted purports to be, is merely an abstract of some of the information from the "certificate", but probably not enough to determine "natural born" status.
Hey F15 Eagle, what did you do to become a “banned or suspended” account? (your homepage)
No he, or someone, produced an electronic image of a Certification of Live Birth. A Certificate is the original birth certificate form on file with the state. If you get a certified copy of that, with raised seal and registar's signature stamp, then you have a copy of the original birth certificate, also known as the "Vault Copy". If all you have is a Certification, with raised seal, etc, you have a document produced when you requested it, from a database containing some of the information from all of the Certificates on file for that state.
Terminology varies a bit from state to state though. The above is for Hawaii. Being nothing than a computer print out, the Certification is much easier to forge than the Certificate. Since it does not contain all the information, and because of that ease of forging, in some cases even US State Department will not accept one as evidence of ordinary citizenship. One such instance is if the birth date, and the date filed (or accepted by the registrar) is more than a year after the date of birth. The Certificate would normally indicate the reason for the late filing, while the certification does not.
Democrats why not just prove he is a citizen and put this to rest? I think thou dost protest too much!
I see an opportunity for another auction.
I used to be a flat birther. But I've put some pounds on over the years, and now I'm a round brither.
That may be true, it's still full of the usual lies regarding the facts that we've come to expect from CNN and the entire lefty media.
Obama, who was born in Hawaii...
Notice how matter-of-factly that is stated by the CNN lackey Preston. Well, if that fact is so obvious, where the heck is his bona fide Hawaii birth certificate to prove it?!!! That's exactly the problem that Cong. Posey's bill is intended to address - and the 'Rats know it!
The USSC does not want to deal with any of this because they are fearful of the political firestorm it would ignite. They are afraid the country can't handle the truth, at least at this time. Maybe later, when the administration is shown to be totally inept in both economic and foreign affairs, perhaps the Court will consider the matter further when it's less politically risky to do so.
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