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Suburbia R.I.P.
FastCompany.com via Yahoo! Finance ^ | March 12, 2009 | Michael Cannell

Posted on 03/13/2009 8:07:51 PM PDT by Disambiguator

The downturn has accomplished what a generation of designers and planners could not: it has turned back the tide of suburban sprawl. In the wake of the foreclosure crisis many new subdivisions are left half built and more established suburbs face abandonment. Cul-de-sac neighborhoods once filled with the sound of backyard barbecues and playing children are falling silent. Communities like Elk Grove, Calif., and Windy Ridge, N.C., are slowly turning into ghost towns with overgrown lawns, vacant strip malls and squatters camping in empty homes.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; economy; landuse; mortgage; suburbia; suburbs
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To: Disambiguator
Well, wishful thinking but looking the other way and pretending it isn't so, namely businesses and industries follow employees towards suburbia.
Enough of big city union haggling, being non discriminative, not a sexist, etc, etc.
Change of scenery has healing power.
21 posted on 03/13/2009 8:43:37 PM PDT by hermgem (Will Olmr)
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To: ichabod1

That fact is the Internet (really data communications) allows people to leave the cities and continue doing their architecture design, fashion design, software writing anywhere they damn well please.

I did it more than 20 years ago and I’m not going back. I know others that have done the same.


22 posted on 03/13/2009 8:44:17 PM PDT by DB
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To: hermgem

People move to suburbia for many reasons, but around where I live they also do it because you can get so much more house for the money. It more than makes up the extra cost in gas. And if what they say is true, the burbs will become cheaper still.

This isn’t the first time this has happened. In the oil bust of 1982 whole neighborhoods in Houston went empty for a while. And, though I hate to say it, many of them didn’t really recover. They turned into urban sh!tholes of squatters and section 8 losers.

Sure, people are moving back in — sometimes it’s because the crime and criminals have followed them out. But it’s fun to live inside where there’s so much more going on... nightlife, culture.


23 posted on 03/13/2009 8:50:29 PM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: Disambiguator
Living in Florida, I can easily tell of a dozen or so large suburban developments I am familiar with that failed when booms went bust but were later revived successfully.

Suburb haters ought to consider that the dimensions of the average suburban lot are similar to those set for millenia by families settled in small villages in rural Africa. Granted, few American suburban families keep goats, chickens, and a vegetable patch next to the house, but suburban yards give a deeply appealing sense of privacy and outdoor leisure.

24 posted on 03/13/2009 8:51:30 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: DB

I got sidetracked, but the reason I posted that quote was to make the point that fashion designers and architects are pretty much useless when it comes to the real work of making a city go.


25 posted on 03/13/2009 8:52:24 PM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: Disambiguator

“Cul-de-sac neighborhoods once filled with the sound of backyard barbecues and playing children are falling silent. Communities like Elk Grove, Calif., and Windy Ridge, N.C., are slowly turning into ghost towns with overgrown lawns, vacant strip malls and squatters camping in empty homes.”

Yeah, everywhere you go, this is what you see. Bread lines, tent cities, dead bodies in the streets. /s


26 posted on 03/13/2009 8:55:44 PM PDT by Marie2 (Ora et labora)
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To: goodnesswins

I’ve often daydreamed about 10 or 20 families, Christians in my dream world, purchasing every other house on a blighted city block or two, and moving in. It would be an instant good neighborhood. All those families could help each other out, plant a church, and get a house for $5,000. They could minister together in the city. If it were up to me, I’d do it.


27 posted on 03/13/2009 8:58:33 PM PDT by Marie2 (Ora et labora)
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To: Marie2

Hmmm...there’s probably places in Detroit, Chicago, Arizona, or Florida, where you might be able to do that...to a certain extent at least....just don’t TELL anyone your Christians....that’ll put you in a fishbowl!!!


28 posted on 03/13/2009 9:08:51 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Conservative and fighting for freedom and liberty....whether you like it or not.)
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To: nomad

I live in an inner city neighborhood now, and I love it.


29 posted on 03/13/2009 9:13:07 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: goodnesswins

Yeah, you know, we could do it as a mission work. I’m not recruiting, because Mr. Marie would never go for it. But I still think it’s a good idea.


30 posted on 03/13/2009 9:21:05 PM PDT by Marie2 (Ora et labora)
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To: BBell

“Refrigerators and stoves were just plain nasty.”

Mirrors the tenants.


31 posted on 03/13/2009 9:22:45 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: ChadsDad
You have never encountered a smaller mind than a city planner.

I once lived next door to the city planner in Apache Junction, AZ (a nice town since gone to seed). Put a couple drinks in the guy and the jerk really came out.

32 posted on 03/13/2009 10:19:42 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Obama's next program: Kopechne Care)
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To: Disambiguator
My mailing address is Ann Arbor. That's close enough as it is. I do not want to move to city limits where nothing is allowed.

Besides, it costs more to live in city limits than it does outside of the city, unless I move to the slums in Ypsi.

33 posted on 03/13/2009 10:26:21 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Obama = Jimmy Carter II)
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To: B-Chan

I’ve lived in a suburb and two different major urban centers. The suburb was pleasant, but yeah, boring as heck. If you need anything, it’s like a 20 minute drive to get there, no night life, etc. The first urban place was a complete ghetto (I was in college), my neighbors stole my mail, I was renting from a slumlord, not fun. Now a live in a pretty cool city though, and I can walk around the corner to the grocery, I live near a big park, there are probably 15 each of clubs, bars (no need to drive!) and churches within easy walking distance, depending on your mood =)

I bet i’ll want to move out to the suburbs when I’m older and have kids, but being young and in a city rocks.


34 posted on 03/13/2009 10:26:24 PM PDT by OH4life
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To: ichabod1
Richard Florida

That's all I needed to see. He's the major founder of the "new urbanism" and "creative class" junk that is all the rage these days.

35 posted on 03/13/2009 10:29:24 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Obama = Jimmy Carter II)
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To: Cicero
Nothing short of millions of inconvenient people dying, along with their kids and their barbecues, will satisfy these PC freaks.

Millions? You grossly underestimate them, I'm afraid. I keep thinking back to those pony-tailed fiends who say that the Earth should really only have a billion or so people on it.
36 posted on 03/13/2009 10:30:22 PM PDT by Antoninus (So now "change" is defined as "more of the same, but worse"?)
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To: Disambiguator

Rabbit hutches are for liberals and idiots!


37 posted on 03/13/2009 10:38:10 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: ElkGroveDan
Communities like Elk Grove, Calif., and Windy Ridge, N.C., are slowly turning into ghost towns with overgrown lawns, vacant strip malls and squatters camping in empty homes.

Is this true?

38 posted on 03/13/2009 10:39:49 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: aposiopetic
Is this true?

No.

40 posted on 03/13/2009 10:53:43 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Reagan is back, and this time he's a woman.)
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