Not ture. The COLB posted on his website is just as good as any other document when it comes proving birth in the US. The State department accepts it, as does any court in the US.
2. Dual Citizenship issue: Obama could have British and American citizenship due to his father being a British subject at the time of his birth.
He did have dual citizenship at birth, which lapsed when he turned 18. He's admitted that. However, it is irrelevant. If you disagree, please find the passage in the Constitution that prohibits people who had dual citizenship as babies from being president.
3. Dual Citizenship issue: Obama could have dual citizenship with Indonesia if he was adopted.
Not true. First of all, there is no evidence he was adopted. Second, even if he was, both US and Indonesian law at the time made it impossible for him to have acquired dual citizenship by virtue of adoption.
His school records from Inonesia indicate he was Indonesian.
A single document from a private school lists his citizenship as Indoensian. Assuming the document is authentic (and there's a good possibility it is not), then it is in error for the reason stated above.
People do, you know, make mistakes when filling out documents.
He also traveled to Pakistan, but under what passport?
There is no reason to believe he traveled on any passport other than a US passport.
4. Mother's age at birth. Hawaiian laws on the books at the time of his birth hold that U.S. citizenship may only pass to a child born overseas to a U.S. citizen parent and non-citizen parent if the former was at least 19. Stanley Ann Dunham was only 18 at the time of Obama's birth.
True, but a moot point, since there is no evidence he was born anywhere other than Hawaiii.
5. Failure to formally renounce dual citizenship described above and reestablish American citizenship at some point and show proof of same.
Irrelevant, since under both US and Indonesian law, he never lost his US citizenship.
1. Obama was not born in the United States. The Certification of Live Birth that he posts on his web site proves nothing. Only the original paper certificate can address this issue.
Not ture. The COLB posted on his website is just as good as any other document when it comes proving birth in the US. The State department accepts it, as does any court in the US.
I SIMPLY SAID THAT IT WAS ONE OF SEVERAL WAYS THAT HE COULD BE INELIGIBLE FOR THE PRESIDENCY. WHY WILL HE NOT RELEASE HIS ORGNAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE? NO HOSPITAL IN HAWAII HAS A RECORD OF TREATING A STANLEY ANN DUNHAM. BETWEEN HIM AND HIS SISTER, THEY CLAIM HE WAS BORN IN TWO DIFFERENT HOSPITALS, NEITHER OF WHICH HAS A RECORD. FURTHER, THE COLB HAS A 2007-STYLE BORDER THAT APPEARS TO BE PHOTOSHOPPED, ONE EXPERT SAYS THIS IS A PHOTOSHOPPED VERSION OF HIS SISTER’S COLB.
2. Dual Citizenship issue: Obama could have British and American citizenship due to his father being a British subject at the time of his birth.
He did have dual citizenship at birth, which lapsed when he turned 18. He’s admitted that. However, it is irrelevant. If you disagree, please find the passage in the Constitution that prohibits people who had dual citizenship as babies from being president.
THIS IS ALSO THE BASIS FOR SEVERAL LAWSUITS, SO I WOULD SUSPECT IT TO BE RESEARCHED AND TRUE.
3. Dual Citizenship issue: Obama could have dual citizenship with Indonesia if he was adopted.
Not true. First of all, there is no evidence he was adopted. Second, even if he was, both US and Indonesian law at the time made it impossible for him to have acquired dual citizenship by virtue of adoption.
INDONESIA WAS A DICTATORSHIP AT THE TIME, NO ONE CAME IN AND OUT OF THE COUNTRY WITHOUT PROPER VISAS, NO ONE ENROLLED IN SCHOOLS WITHOUT CITIZENSHIP. REMEMBER, HIS NAME WAS BARRY SAETORO AT THAT TIME.
His school records from Inonesia indicate he was Indonesian.
A single document from a private school lists his citizenship as Indoensian. Assuming the document is authentic (and there’s a good possibility it is not), then it is in error for the reason stated above.
People do, you know, make mistakes when filling out documents.
THEN BARRY OR HIS PARENTS SHOULD HAVE HAD IT CORRECTED, EVEN LONG AFTER THE FACT.
He also traveled to Pakistan, but under what passport?
There is no reason to believe he traveled on any passport other than a US passport.
PAKISTAN WAS ON A STATE DEPARTMENT RESTRICTED TRAVEL LIST DURING THE TIME PERIOD THAT BARRY CLAIMS HE VISITED THERE.
4. Mother’s age at birth. Hawaiian laws on the books at the time of his birth hold that U.S. citizenship may only pass to a child born overseas to a U.S. citizen parent and non-citizen parent if the former was at least 19. Stanley Ann Dunham was only 18 at the time of Obama’s birth.
True, but a moot point, since there is no evidence he was born anywhere other than Hawaiii.
OTHER THAN KENYAN GRANDMOTHER, HALF SISTER, AND A HOST OF KENYAN OFFICIALS WHO INDICATE OTHERWISE.
5. Failure to formally renounce dual citizenship described above and reestablish American citizenship at some point and show proof of same.
Irrelevant, since under both US and Indonesian law, he never lost his US citizenship.
SEE ABOVE.
OBAMA HAS NOW SPENT NEARLY A MILLION DOLLARS IN LAWYER FEES TRYING TO FEND OFF SOMETHING THAT A SIMPLE ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE COULD DISPROVE. WHY WILL HE NOT PRODUCE IT, NOT TO MENTION HIS PASSPORT, HIS COLLEGE RECORDS AND MEDICAL RECORDS? EVEN THE MOST NAIVE AMONG US SHOULD QUESTION THESE IRREGULARITIES. IT SHOULD BE AN OPEN AND CLOSED CASE. SORRY, A QUESTIONABLE COLB DOES NOT GET IT.
“A single document from a private school lists his citizenship as Indoensian. Assuming the document is authentic (and there’s a good possibility it is not), then it is in error for the reason stated above.
People do, you know, make mistakes when filling out documents.”
You have the temerity to write this, and you are willing to credulously accept that fake ass COLB as proof of Hussein’s citizenship??? Were your complicity in covering for Hussein’s crimes not so glaringly apparent, I would be amazed. But your response is PRECISELY why this issue needs to be bought before an appropriate ccourt of law, with all witnesses under oath, subject to cross examination and the documents or certified copies therof subject to examination.
But than again, your side seeks to block such an eventuality on the grounds of legal frivolity or harrasment, rather than the distressing (to you and yours) likelihood that the truth will get Hussein’s lying counterfeit ass kicked out of office.
Wrong on all counts.
If you see a guy standing in line in the passport office, and he's carrying his desktop and monitor with him to show the Immigration Officer an image of his birth certificate, that will be curiosity.
Unless he attended college in the US as an Indonesian student, in which case it is relevant, as are his admissions records and transcripts. YMMV.
What would be a logical reason for Obama's refusal to release it and put the issue to rest?
It defies common sense.
Not true.
What is posted on his website is a web facsimile of one side of a purported document. What was posted was also altered (certificate number blacked out), which according to the posted document invalidates that document for all legal purposes.
Obama would have to make available the actual physical copy of the document so that both sides could be inspected by people.
Can you imagine what would happen if you were driving and were pulled over by a cop, and instead of showing your drivers license you pulled out your blackberry and showed an image of the front of your drivers license that you stored on your website? Could you get on a plane by showing that blackberry image to an airline ticket agent, TSA, or others?
Then why should we accept one side of a web facsimile as the real thing?
-PJ
When he told the Illinois Bar he had been known by no other names, was that perjury?
When he changed his name from Barry Soetoro to Barack Obama, without a legal name change, was that fraudulent?
Last, but not least, I cannot post a copy of my short form birth certificate on the internet and use that to get a passport. I have to present a long form certified copy.
And I don’t have my finger on the button.
It, certainly, is relevant if he is, presently, a dual citizen and did not reveal that fact when running for President.