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Eligibility--More than Just a Computer Image, Stupid!
His Master's Voice | 3/12/09 | HMV

Posted on 03/12/2009 7:47:44 AM PDT by Hillary'sMoralVoid

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To: usmcobra
Can you explain why it was necessary for him and his people to access State Department records of Obama’s as well as the records of the other candidates,

Where is your evidence that anyone associated with the Obama did this?

And the guy whose company did the break in ends up in Obama circle of trusted advisers...

Do you think the CEO of a company has personal knowledge of the actions of every single one of his employees?

Is there any evidence that they acted on his orders?

141 posted on 03/13/2009 5:29:19 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity
Indonesia doesn't allow NONindonesian citizens to be enrolled in their school and they don't allow dual citizenship.
142 posted on 03/13/2009 5:32:01 PM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: Canedawg

Great morph post! Resemblance is uncanny!


143 posted on 03/13/2009 5:32:17 PM PDT by Freedom56v2
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To: usmcobra
Indonesia doesn't allow NONindonesian citizens to be enrolled in their school and they don't allow dual citizenship

Not true. Yet another brither factoid someone just made up that gets quoted as gospel truth, when it is in fact false.

144 posted on 03/13/2009 5:37:29 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity
Where is your evidence that anyone associated with the Obama did this?

CNN

: curiously as soon as it was revealed who they worked for and their boss's affiliation with Obama. the whole story sort of disappeared off the media's radar as if it was a nonissue.

Funny how that works isn't it?

Had I done it to expose Obama's past I am sure I would be looking at jail time on a host of charges, what were they charged with and when did they go to trial?

145 posted on 03/13/2009 5:38:20 PM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: usmcobra
Obviously the hassles of being president are above his paid grade, perhaps he should step down, since you are so worried about the hassles of being president?

I'm not worried about anything. I'd love to see him step down.

Legal hassles, however, are not and should not be part of the hassles of the presidency.

146 posted on 03/13/2009 5:38:49 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity
Legal hassles, however, are not and should not be part of the hassles of the presidency.

Even if legitimate? Is your name Robert Gibbs?

147 posted on 03/13/2009 5:42:51 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Obama: Succeeding Where Bin Laden Failed)
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To: Velveeta
Don’t you find it the least bit odd that Barry forgot to mention his trip to Pakistan in both of his autobiographies?

Not really. I've read several autobiographies that don't detail every vacation the subject took.

The first time Barry deemed to mention his trip to Pakistan was AFTER the passport breach.

If he traveled to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport, why would someone breaching his US passport records motivate him to tell about his trip to Pakistan?

Who breached his passport - 3 times?

Good question. Another question is why the names of the employees who breached the files (and were fired for it) as well as the names of the outside contractors who employed them weren't released by the State Dept, despite Democratic leaders demanding those names and a full investigation of the matter. Mukasey and the Justice Dept offered to look into it as well and Condi Rice said "No thanks, we'll handle it." That was after she personally called Obama, Hillary and McCain to apologize for all their records being breached.

148 posted on 03/13/2009 5:43:18 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: curiosity
"Legal hassles, however, are not and should not be part of the hassles of the presidency."

Now he tells me?!?!?!..."

149 posted on 03/13/2009 5:43:31 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: curiosity
Surely you don't expect him to mail a certified copy to every US household.

Now you're being foolish.

I had to produce my original birth certificate when I joined the Army. 0bama should produce THE ORIGINAL to become President.

You said, "He just doesn't want the hassle of having to defend against twenty different simultaneous lawsuits at once."

But he is doing just that - paying his lawyers to answer several lawsuits. If he doesn't want the hassle, do like I (and millions of other Americans) and produce THE ORIGINAL.

150 posted on 03/13/2009 5:45:33 PM PDT by airborne (Obama is finishing what Osama started! The destruction of the American economy!!!)
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To: curiosity

Sure I do, but bless your heart, for being concerned about my comprehension.


151 posted on 03/13/2009 5:45:41 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: curiosity

Actually, the state department disagrees with you.

One more time....

The DOS states:

QUOTE: “Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.” ENDQUOTE

Obama’s COLB IS a short-form (abstract) version of his birth certificate.

BTW - did you know that Hawaii doesn’t even agree with you?

Please read from http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl:

QUOTE: “In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.” ENDQUOTE

And one more time for the tone deaf:

The computer-generated CertifiCATION requires additional verification by DHHL.

Oh, DHHL is Department of Hawaiian Home Lands.


152 posted on 03/13/2009 5:56:28 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: curiosity
His school records from Inonesia indicate he was Indonesian.

A single document from a private school lists his citizenship as Indoensian. Assuming the document is authentic (and there's a good possibility it is not), then it is in error for the reason stated above.

People do, you know, make mistakes when filling out documents.

It's amusing the contortions you went through to answer the above evidenced question.

He also traveled to Pakistan, but under what passport?

There is no reason to believe he traveled on any passport other than a US passport.

When there is evidence you explain it away, but when there is none you try to validate your position with the lack of. Do you see why you confuse people?

153 posted on 03/13/2009 5:58:27 PM PDT by this is my country
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To: curiosity

Let me ask you a serious question, please:

Do you think that the office of the President of the United States is a typical office or is it extraordinary in any way?


154 posted on 03/13/2009 5:59:58 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: usmcobra

And only ‘after’ the passport breach did Obama admit to ever having traveled to Pakistan.


155 posted on 03/13/2009 6:03:06 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Not really. I've read several autobiographies that don't detail every vacation the subject took.

Except for his time in Indonesia, it was his first trip out of the country.

Do you really think he just forgot to mention it???

156 posted on 03/13/2009 6:08:39 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: MHGinTN

“Ah, so this approach of denigrating the arguments as merely fantasy fishing expeditions IS the latest Axelrod talking point! Glad we got that clarified so early this evening.”

Nothing denigrating. Merely an observation that one of “the arguments” seems about as good, as the next.

Or if I am wrong about that observation, then which of the five is the strongest, and why?


157 posted on 03/13/2009 6:11:46 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Sorry, I hit post too quickly.

“Good question. Another question is why the names of the employees who breached the files (and were fired for it) as well as the names of the outside contractors who employed them weren’t released by the State Dept, despite Democratic leaders demanding those names and a full investigation of the matter. Mukasey and the Justice Dept offered to look into it as well and Condi Rice said “No thanks, we’ll handle it.” That was after she personally called Obama, Hillary and McCain to apologize for all their records being breached.”

Curious, isn’t it?


158 posted on 03/13/2009 6:13:23 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta
How does it help anyone, or any cause, to keep insisting on something that's not true?

Is it so important to win an argument that the facts just get trampled in the process?

There's really not much point to continuing this discussion.

159 posted on 03/13/2009 6:14:11 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: browardchad

I dunno. I was going to ask you that very question.

All I did was quote verbatim from the Department of State website which differentiates a birth certificate from a short-form abstract - aka COLB.


160 posted on 03/13/2009 6:16:56 PM PDT by Velveeta
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