[browardchad]

How does it help anyone, or any cause, to keep insisting on something that's not true?

Is it so important to win an argument that the facts just get trampled in the process?

There's really not much point to continuing this discussion.

[Velveeta]

I dunno. I was going to ask you that very question.

All I did was quote verbatim from the Department of State website which differentiates a birth certificate from a short-form abstract - aka COLB.