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To: curiosity

Actually, the state department disagrees with you.

One more time....

The DOS states:

QUOTE: “Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.” ENDQUOTE

Obama’s COLB IS a short-form (abstract) version of his birth certificate.

BTW - did you know that Hawaii doesn’t even agree with you?

Please read from http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl:

QUOTE: “In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.” ENDQUOTE

And one more time for the tone deaf:

The computer-generated CertifiCATION requires additional verification by DHHL.

Oh, DHHL is Department of Hawaiian Home Lands.


152 posted on 03/13/2009 5:56:28 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta
One more time....

"Some" does not mean "all." The DOS clearly indicates that some short forms are not accepted because they do not have one of the following: a raised seal, registrar's signature, or date filed within one year of birth. Obama's, in contrast, has all those things.

As to the DHHL, did you even bother to read the context of your quote?

If you had, you would understand that the reason the DHHL requires more than the short form is because they require proof of Hawaiian ancestry, not just birth:

"To be eligible to apply for a Hawaiian home lands homestead lease, you must meet two requirements:"

"You must be at least 18 years of age;

"and You must be a native Hawaiian, defined as "any descendant of not less than one-half part of the blood of the races inhabiting the Hawaiian Islands previous to 1778." This means, you must have a blood quantum of at least 50 percent Hawaiian. This requirement remains unchanged since the HHCA's passage in 1921."

"The general rule of thumb in determining 50 percent blood quantum is to submit enough documentation tracing your genealogy to your full Hawaiian ancestor(s). "

The short form COLB has enough information to verify Hawaiian birth. It does not have enough information to verify ancestry.

You really should read the full context of documents you quote.

175 posted on 03/14/2009 9:27:00 AM PDT by curiosity
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