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No more love for Lucy? (33 years of evolutionary propoganda up in smoke)
Journal of Creation ^ | Ryan Jaroncyk

Posted on 03/11/2009 11:40:00 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

No more love for Lucy?

Ryan Jaroncyk

For over the last 30 years, the supposedly 3 . 2 Ma old Australopithecus afarensis specimen known as ‘Lucy’ has been boldly proclaimed as the ancestor of all humanity in magazines, television shows, books, newspapers and museums. However, Tel Aviv University anthropologists have published a study casting serious doubt on Lucy’s role as mankind’s ape ancestor.1 Based on a comparative analysis of jaw bones in living and extinct primates, researchers concluded that Lucy and members of her kind should be ‘placed as the beginning of the branch that evolved in parallel to ours.’ In other words, Lucy should no longer be considered to be our direct ancestor. Lucy’s demise falsifies 33 years of evolutionary hyperbole and propaganda...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: afarensis; australopithecus; creation; evolution; flintstones; godsgravesglyphs; goodgodimnutz; hollywoodreds; intelligentdesign; junkdarwin; lucy; telaviv; university; unnaturallyselective
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To: Cedric

Proof = Piltdown man


81 posted on 03/11/2009 12:36:53 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: DesertRhino
Science is dependent on grants. Finding an extinct species of chimp, monkey, gorilla or whatever doesn't get grants. Finding a human link gets grants.

The truth "is what it is." Many studies in all areas of science are based more on what gets the grants than what's true.

The old fossils and bones also serve as Rorschach tests. Dittos for studies of ancient cultures. The conclusions reached often say more about the person doing the studying than the subject. I guess it would be boring if all these studies said, "actually, we know damned little about these bones."

82 posted on 03/11/2009 12:38:21 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Codeflier
This does nothing to disprove evolution.

You're right. But it often seems that the genetics involved, aren't.

83 posted on 03/11/2009 12:38:32 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Cedric
Yeah, we've heard the fantasy, ad infinitum. We're lookin’ for some proof, for once, from you guys.

No scientific theory can ever be proven, though scientific theories do have evidence supporting them.

Without googling, can you tell me which of these skulls are "humans" and which are "apes"?


84 posted on 03/11/2009 12:38:41 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: newcats
Attention Evos; Clip & Save:

If you can’t back up what you profess are facts, then they are BS and worthless in a discussion.

85 posted on 03/11/2009 12:40:28 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: Richard Kimball

Where are the apes’ ancestors?

I guess they’ll have to find their own, and set up their own grants for doing so.


86 posted on 03/11/2009 12:40:43 PM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Yes.


87 posted on 03/11/2009 12:41:09 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: Lurking Libertarian

You didn’t find those in Jeff Dahmer’s back yard did you?


88 posted on 03/11/2009 12:42:32 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Cedric
Lucy is a real fossil, not a silly hoax like Piltdown. Sorry, but with all due respect, you do not know the facts here. The thing that can be argued is whether or not Lucy was in a direct line to us, not whether she's real or not. And Java man was a real fossil also (Homo erectus).
89 posted on 03/11/2009 12:43:03 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must...)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
Your assuming that an individual with a meaningful mutation is going to mate successfully with a "mongrel," be passed on intact genetically to their first offspring, have that offspring continue to pass on intact genetically when mating still among at least some "mongrels" (depending on social mores), and that this mutation will then become dominant eventually all the while millions of fellow mongrels without the mutation are mutiplying happily about them? Uh huh.
90 posted on 03/11/2009 12:44:51 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: newcats

David Menton’s video on the Lucy story would do for starters.


91 posted on 03/11/2009 12:46:30 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: newcats

The burden of proof is on you unless of course you happen to have a photograph of a missing link wandering about the Neaderthal in denim jeans and a campy blazer.


92 posted on 03/11/2009 12:48:37 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: Pharmboy

And Ocean’s 12 was more sophisticated than The Sting.

So what?


93 posted on 03/11/2009 12:48:47 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: Cedric; Diamond

We came from fish not apes. I forgot.


94 posted on 03/11/2009 12:49:50 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: Richard Kimball

The fact is most archeological finds are lucky to come up with 25% of a complete remains.


95 posted on 03/11/2009 12:51:12 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: pabianice
The author fails to note that he is anti-evolution theory. That matters.

Yep, he is an idiot and you are a genius, and that will never change, so why do you keep asserting that?

96 posted on 03/11/2009 12:54:24 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Obama it is then.)
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To: zeestephen

Technically, that is correct. According to evolution theory, man is not “evolved from ape,” rather apes share a common ancestor with man.


97 posted on 03/11/2009 12:56:23 PM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

“A” is Donald Duck. The rest of those skulls on top look incomplete. “C” might pass for Goofy.


98 posted on 03/11/2009 12:56:56 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: massgopguy
If we decended from the apes, why are there still apes?

Exhibit Number One of someone who has zero comprehension of evolutionary theory.

If horticulturalists breed orange flowers from red ones, why are there still red flowers?

99 posted on 03/11/2009 12:57:10 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Richard Kimball

“Finding an extinct species of chimp, monkey, gorilla or whatever doesn’t get grants. Finding a human link gets grants.” Richard Kimball

That is incorrect. We have MUCH more remains of likely human ancestors from the same period of 3-5 million years ago than fossil remains of chimps or gorillas. This is most likely due to fossils being preserved better where human ancestors lived, rather than in the jungle where chimps and gorillas ancestors likely lived.

A good knuckle walking ape fossil of a likely gorilla ancestor from 5 million years ago would be a SPECTACULAR find and get plenty of grants.


100 posted on 03/11/2009 12:59:05 PM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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